I don’t just mean outrage or regular rage, I mean shock that someone was to the left of “legal weed and free college but only for those that operate a successful business for 3 years in a disadvantaged community” takes.
I think federating took them by surprise, looking back. For about a week, those smug liberals were at a loss to even fathom what Hexbears were saying, and could only chant bullshit about how we’re Russian/Chinese bots.
Sure they still do that but they’ve slightly adapted to Hexbear presence.
Aren’t they pretending to believe we’re all Republicans doing a three year long larp as leftists?
I knew it wasn’t going to be long before they started calling us MAGA Communists. They can’t fathom people who can laugh at Trump and not be completly deranged over him destroying DEMOCRACY ™ so we have to secretly be supporting him.
That’s their latest thing yeah. “Well see you both agree with Republican ideas of isolationism and therefore you must ACTUALLY be right wing.”
Libs plz. We believe in US isolationism because we want the US to stop fucking around with the rest of the world and leave the rest of the world alone to figure itself out without being bombed and coerced into doing what the US wants the world to do. The right believes in US isolationism because they’re nationalists who believe the US should only help ourselves and should never help anyone outside our borders. We’re literally polar opposites. There is no overlap in those 2 viewpoints.
One of the things that pushed me into leftism about seven years ago was the realization that there even WAS something to the left of me.
Yeah the same is true for me being anti-car. When I first heard of European congestion taxes when I was car-brained I was like “that is literally insane, how are you going to restrict poor people’s right to get into the city”. But after learning about other forms of transit and the fact that it’s affordable and cheap and objectively better than private vehicles, I realized that just realizing that other transit options exist makes me move further ‘left’ lol.
I always dreamed of a united human race like in Star Trek or Mass Effect. I remember wishing there was an Anthem for mankind, and then I heard the lyrics to The Internationale…and found a Richard Wolff video explaining what Socialism actually is.
The Harry Potter limits of liberalism jpeg helped a lot too.
I realized in the space of a week that I was a Socialist, not a Liberal. I didn’t just want some people liberated, I want everybody liberated. A united human race, unshackled by nationalism or racism or sexism or economic inequality.
… and then I started to realize how many other people I admired had been Socialists, like MLK and Einstein, and then I started to realize how much we’ve been deliberately lied to about almost everything in the US…
… and then I started to realize how many other people I admired had been Socialists, like MLK and Einstein, and then I started to realize how much we’ve been deliberately lied to about almost everything in the US…
basically every time you learn about a historical figure who seems cool, it turns out they founded the US Communist Party or spent 6 months in revolutionary Moscow or aided peasant villages in Mao-era China
Left does not equal good, more left does not equal more good. Left and right are rarely useful ways of analysing politics: it really only says something if you are talking about the left or the right broadly or talking about the left and right position to a particular position (and even then I try to avoid.) I know you’re doing a bit and its funny but I’m always surprised by how many people I organize with think this way, and it’s disorienting
That’s very similar to my experience albeit I was always a little further left than progressive liberalism. I just lacked the theory and vocabulary to articulate my politics. Ironically it was first breadtube, then chapo (the podcast), and finally the subreddit that helped galvanize my preexisting communist leanings.
Yo same. I was literally a liberal pretty much right up until I learned I could be a communist.
I’ll have to admit I was also knocked down by seeing liberal takes that are so outside of my frame of reference I didn’t know anyone thought that way.
For example, there was this one user who had decided to die on the hill of getting rid of welfare because they felt people on it were just lazy.
For example, there was this one user who had decided to die on the hill of getting rid of welfare because they felt people on it were just lazy.
What the fuck is left to be “progressive” about to that liberal, then?
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I got the impression that they were English, in which case there’s a trend amongst liberals to be huge fans of austerity. Partly because that’s what Blair used to fund bailing out the banks during the financial crash, partly because there’s been a concerted push since then to propagandise everyone on benefits as lazy so that people are less bothered by further austerity.
What did they say-ish? Ballpark it if it was gross, idk what the removal reason was
I’m curious because I recognize the username from lemmy. This was the user who finally prompted me to make the “lemmy libs want to know if hexbear supports trump” thread on my lemmy account (which can’t see your comment or Fae’s, for some reason). I spent a while talking to them and it went nowhere. I dm’d them the trump thread, after the comm we were talking in got deleted mid-convo, but never heard back.