I don’t just mean outrage or regular rage, I mean shock that someone was to the left of “legal weed and free college but only for those that operate a successful business for 3 years in a disadvantaged community” takes.
I think federating took them by surprise, looking back. For about a week, those smug liberals were at a loss to even fathom what Hexbears were saying, and could only chant bullshit about how we’re Russian/Chinese bots.
Sure they still do that but they’ve slightly adapted to Hexbear presence.
“I’m as left as they come, but I trust the CIA and support every US foreign policy position”
the media are bad and duplicitous and lie all the time to make money for their capitalist owners. except about Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, China, Stalin and the DPRK, I still believe all those lies because I’m a good kid and so is America
When something bad happens in a socialist country it’s the government’s fault, when something bad happens in a capitalist country it’s the individuals fault (or it’s a good thing, actually)
Good points. When it comes to the DPRK, I think a part of it is that the weird and wonderful stories are easy to believe because anything could happen in a land of unicorns and necromancy.
the media are bad and duplicitous and lie all the time to make money for their capitalist owners. except about Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, China, Stalin and the DPRK, I still believe all those lies because I’m a good kid and so is America
They are first and foremost, nationalists. It’s unsurprising that they accept and go along with everything when they are told “this is good for america”. As nationalists they simply bat for their team.
We have to make them stop being nationalists first in order to get that to stop happening. Then the rest opens up.
This is a good ovservation. It seems to me that historically the rise of liberalism is paralel to the rise of the nation state. This may be a historical accident or may be because merchant capital and financial capital beneft from a strong state and viceversa. One would expect that as capital becomes international the libs would become less nationalistic. But there is still a large block that would semengly go against their own material interests starting stuff with china for example.
Honestly I am not that left. I just want an internationalist world order in which the means of productions are under shared democratic rational control of the working class to enable survival on the world, sustainable eco systems and the realm of freedom which enables us to work little and enjoy being humans for the sake of being human. That isn’t that much.
listening to DSA sing it without a hint of irony left me with a bitter taste in my mouth
Aren’t they pretending to believe we’re all Republicans doing a three year long larp as leftists?
That’s their latest thing yeah. “Well see you both agree with Republican ideas of isolationism and therefore you must ACTUALLY be right wing.”
Libs plz. We believe in US isolationism because we want the US to stop fucking around with the rest of the world and leave the rest of the world alone to figure itself out without being bombed and coerced into doing what the US wants the world to do. The right believes in US isolationism because they’re nationalists who believe the US should only help ourselves and should never help anyone outside our borders. We’re literally polar opposites. There is no overlap in those 2 viewpoints.
I knew it wasn’t going to be long before they started calling us MAGA Communists. They can’t fathom people who can laugh at Trump and not be completly deranged over him destroying DEMOCRACY ™ so we have to secretly be supporting him.
Wait, we’re not conservatives? Then why have we been celebrating our big wet boy?
I had to make a new main account on a different instance so I could maintain access to HexBear communities. I am so thrilled to finally be interacting with a community of actual leftists! Drag me further to the left daddies✊
Change over to a hexbear account so we don’t see “lemme.ee” at the end of your name. I try not to, but I judge those users a lot more critically. (Half joke)
But really, welcome and hope you find what you’re looking for!
On the other hand, the emojis are bigger for other accounts, which some would see as a plus
Liberals either think or want to think they have a monopoly on being “the left wing party”. They also don’t want to think too hard, and are at their heart capitalist, which means they prefer a prescribed identity that requires no effort on their part.
One of the more interesting takes I’ve ever heard on Trillbillies podcast was that the Democratic Party is mostly a lifestyle brand at this point. One that’s designed to make the member look good, virtuous and just, but not requiring any participation. They have just enough stolen accolades that were really hard fought movements from grassroots organizing to point at so they can say “we"re the good guys”.
Well thought out and well read political leftists pose a threat to their cultural hegemony and therefore undermine their manufactured righteousness. If enough people got wind that the DNC and their voters are basically a paper tiger in the face of a fascist takeover, they will lose their cushy, do nothing lifestyles. They will either have to help us, or join the fash.
The real sad part is that it’s mostly done for treats, and even those will get taken away as soon as the austerity a lot of us are already facing really kicks in.
Can’t wait to be blamed for “taking 's grill and steaks”.
