No real answers or policy proposals, blaming every problem on migrants (while Biden’s policy on the border is largely a continuation of Trump’s), just a bunch of bullshit “everything was great, now everything sucks, but I will make it great again”. I honestly cringed at Trump more, Biden’s ramblings at least were funny.

I can’t imagine anyone who’s undecided at this point listen to this and say “This guy will make things right”. Trump’s entire objective is to let Biden stumble and fall and then cruise to presidency, but he makes every effort imaginable to prevent himself from it. No zingers or clever retorts against a literal corpse (aside from maybe one “I don’t know what he said and he isn’t either”), just and abysmal performance. Honestly, even someone like Ramaswami would’ve dogwalked Biden.

If anyone is capable of losing to Biden at this point, it’s Trump.

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Well he’s in a bind honestly, going by the people I know that profess to like Trump. They want imaginary stupid things that can’t be said out loud without being obviously stupid or contradictory.

Like, he wants to run as anti-war, and also oppose a cease fire in Gaza? He wants credit for Afghanistan but not to accept that losing a war means an embarrassing retreat. He wants to support the Jan 6th people but also not get yelled at for being supportive of overthrowing the government. He’s gonna end the war in Ukraine before he even comes in, but the terms Putin is asking for are unacceptable?

You have to keep banging on about immigrants because if you get concrete about anything else someone might notice that it makes no fucking sense.

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The Trumpy anti-war stance basically means ‘don’t send US troops anywhere’, they’re usually fine with enabling Israel or other ‘allies’ to prosecute their wars/genocides. Opposition to the Ukraine wars is also more due to them liking Putin’s anti-woke stuff instead of some kind of anti-imperialist principle.

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In other words, Trump’s “anti-war stance” is identical to Obama’s when he ran against Bush: a calculated lie.

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26 points

The Afghanistan contradiction is also easily solved: Trump started to end that war (which he didn’t begin), but 'Biden fumbled the withdrawal of troops making it a shitshow (and he was also there when the war began and intensified).

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I mean, those are actual facts. Probably one of the few good things he’s done, unironically (probably not for the right reasons, but still).

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34 points

Trump was so civil and together, I think libs are going to eat that shit up, people dont care about policies, these debates are the literal theatre of bourgeois political theatre

Im out here in the peanut gallery, trying to get closer to the SPLASH ZONE 💦

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Trump was so civil and together,

Which is funny because this guy tweeted this for some reason

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Trump was so civil and together

His mic was muted while Biden was speaking so he wasn’t able to interrupt like he usually does.

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So they made him look even better lol, I cant say i was paying that close attention

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“Yeah, he beat Medicare. He beat it to death.”

I don’t know, I liked some of Trump’s retorts. He was funny. Biden was just sad.

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34 points

Yeah, Trump was doing Trump shit most of the time. He seemed about as coherent as he ever is.

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I haven’t really listened to Trump outside of short clips since 2020, so hearing him be so… Trump, was actually kinda surprising to me. Obviously it was no 2016-era Trump, but considering Biden’s performance comparatively- damn.

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6 points

They’re going for the pity vote

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27 points

Trump is also going senile it’s just not as bad as Biden’s.

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28 points

Yeah there’s maybe 52% of a working brain between Trump, Biden, and RFK (the don’t count)

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12 points

If only they could just be friends we could have a league of presidents with majority brain.

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18 points

They don’t need to be friends. Let’s start the rituals to combine them into a horrifying flesh golem.

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Fuck you. I will not stand idly by and have someone bad mouth my worms.

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Trump v Clinton

Trump v Biden

Trump v Biden (again)

Is the USA really not capable of getting some actually capable candidates on the ballot?

The last time it was actually two normal people was 2012 with Obama v Romney. That’s 12 years ago.

There are voters this election that were in kindergarten back then.

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incredible that you think obama and romney(!) were normal people.

in 10 years time, people will wax nostalgic about the normal trump v biden elections…

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31 points

There’s been a big lib rehabilitation of Romney in recent years.

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25 points

The most hilarious thing imo was the extremely predictable lib rehabilitation of Bush pretty much the second Trump got elected

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11 points

Romney wasn’t that different from McCain, Bush or Reagan. Or Sunak or Thatcher.

Relative to other conservatives, he was within the norm.

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29 points

within the norm of holden bloodfeast, yes

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22 points

Those people were evil too. I guess you think Trump is bad only because he’s more inclined to say the quiet part out loud, which doesn’t fit “the norm”.

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Dude he literally claimed 47% of Americans were sucking at the teat of Welfare. Mitt Romney is just a polite fascist.

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3 points

I miss Obama.

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39 points

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Me too, so let’s improve our aim for next time.

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no you don’t, you just miss not knowing better

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