No real answers or policy proposals, blaming every problem on migrants (while Biden’s policy on the border is largely a continuation of Trump’s), just a bunch of bullshit “everything was great, now everything sucks, but I will make it great again”. I honestly cringed at Trump more, Biden’s ramblings at least were funny.

I can’t imagine anyone who’s undecided at this point listen to this and say “This guy will make things right”. Trump’s entire objective is to let Biden stumble and fall and then cruise to presidency, but he makes every effort imaginable to prevent himself from it. No zingers or clever retorts against a literal corpse (aside from maybe one “I don’t know what he said and he isn’t either”), just and abysmal performance. Honestly, even someone like Ramaswami would’ve dogwalked Biden.

If anyone is capable of losing to Biden at this point, it’s Trump.

81 points

No zingers

c’mon responding to Biden saying “We finally beat Medicare” with “Yeah, you beat it to death.” was pretty funny

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49 points

I liked them fighting about golf.

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Genuinely the only “real” part of the entire debate

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that was the peak of the debate for me. they’re just the same guy with a few cosmetic tweaks. this is a farce.

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68 points

If anyone is capable of losing to Biden at this point, it’s Trump.

ah yes, but - if anyone is capable of losing to Trump at this point, it’s Biden.

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56 points

Certified “stoppable force vs movable object” moment

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It would be lowkey hilarious if Kennedy’s support spiked based on the fact that he’s a decade younger than either of them.

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What do people see in Kennedy beyond the name? CHUD-lite?

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26 points

The worm

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18 points

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4 points

america’s deep love for falconry

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the masons running an experiment to see just how stupid democracy can get before we stop believing in it. so far it looks like there is no lower bound!

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59 points

The worst thing that Trump said during the debate was in the brief period when they were talking about Israel. Trump says that Biden should let Israel “finish the job” in Gaza. Trump said that Biden is a Palestinian. Trump uses the label Palestinian as a derogatory word.

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Biden says Hamas is the only group preventing peace after describing a deal Hamas agreed to and Israel rejected

Trump calls out that actually Israel is the one preventing peace

“And they’re right to do so and should finish the job”

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24 points

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We knew this, right? There’s a reason that Bibi has back stabbed Biden and is now begging for Trump - it’s because Trump wants Palestinian children bombed more than Biden does, and he’ll make more of it happen.

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Also during Trump’s presidency he did many things which hurt Palestinians and helped Israel, such as the Abraham Accords and moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. He also cut funding to Palestinian aid groups, stopped funding to UNRWA. There’s also speculation that his assassination of Qassem Soleimani was on behalf of Israel.

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56 points

Well he’s in a bind honestly, going by the people I know that profess to like Trump. They want imaginary stupid things that can’t be said out loud without being obviously stupid or contradictory.

Like, he wants to run as anti-war, and also oppose a cease fire in Gaza? He wants credit for Afghanistan but not to accept that losing a war means an embarrassing retreat. He wants to support the Jan 6th people but also not get yelled at for being supportive of overthrowing the government. He’s gonna end the war in Ukraine before he even comes in, but the terms Putin is asking for are unacceptable?

You have to keep banging on about immigrants because if you get concrete about anything else someone might notice that it makes no fucking sense.

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The Trumpy anti-war stance basically means ‘don’t send US troops anywhere’, they’re usually fine with enabling Israel or other ‘allies’ to prosecute their wars/genocides. Opposition to the Ukraine wars is also more due to them liking Putin’s anti-woke stuff instead of some kind of anti-imperialist principle.

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The Afghanistan contradiction is also easily solved: Trump started to end that war (which he didn’t begin), but 'Biden fumbled the withdrawal of troops making it a shitshow (and he was also there when the war began and intensified).

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I mean, those are actual facts. Probably one of the few good things he’s done, unironically (probably not for the right reasons, but still).

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In other words, Trump’s “anti-war stance” is identical to Obama’s when he ran against Bush: a calculated lie.

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“Yeah, he beat Medicare. He beat it to death.”

I don’t know, I liked some of Trump’s retorts. He was funny. Biden was just sad.

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34 points

Yeah, Trump was doing Trump shit most of the time. He seemed about as coherent as he ever is.

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I haven’t really listened to Trump outside of short clips since 2020, so hearing him be so… Trump, was actually kinda surprising to me. Obviously it was no 2016-era Trump, but considering Biden’s performance comparatively- damn.

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6 points

They’re going for the pity vote

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