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If it were me the war never would have started! Putin knows better than to mess with me!! With sleepy Joe at the wheel Putin and Xi and Kim can walk all over America!!!

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“losses based on data from rural towns”

What does this mean and how would someone be able to verify these numbers?

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17 points

I thought it was 800k+ by now?

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maybe. the former Ukraine Internal Affairs Minister and Prosecutor General said in January that Ukraine had sustained 500k casualties. western media is all over the place ofc, some outlets say 500k is actually the number of Russian casualties, some say 500k is the total number of casualties on both sides. we wont have any solid numbers until well after the conflict ends

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Also, “casualties” refers to wounded, missing, and captured as well as killed, so who knows what “losses” refer to

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likely “losses” means casualties. they prob used this wording bc ppl conflate casualties with fatalities. but using “losses” is more confusing so idk

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I’ve seen projects that count the confirmed KIA by name from social media commemorations,. and they arrive at like Russian 72k KIA, 68k Ukranian KIA. Russia does not have a 10:1 casualty rate.

Edit: I don’t know why we shouldn’t accept the named KIA projects as being an effective lower-bound estimate of those killed. if we accept around 70,000 Russians have died, and assume that there are significantly more russian non-KIA casualties than KIA, then not even the Russian MOD is claiming numbers that would be 10:1. Does the Slava Rossiya crew on Hexbear think there are over 2 million Ukranian casualties? in Febuary, Russia said 444,000 Ukranians killed and wounded.

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They have air superiority and are fighting an army that’s obsessed with launching hopeless offensives and been reduced to forcibly conscripting 50 years olds, I would totally believe a 10:1 ratio

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29 points

They do. They have air superiority and really much more of everything including morale

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26 points

We also know:

  1. Ukraine has been getting slowly pushed back
  2. Ukraine’s counteroffensive failed

Abandoning a position because you can’t hold it usually involves lots of deaths. Similarly, moving on a position but getting pushed back seems like it would aldo be pretty costly.

I’m skeptical of 10:1, but I’m also skeptical of 1:1.

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21 points

Russia absolutely has a 10:1 kill ratio and you’d be stupid to not believe it.

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38 points

the almighty slava narrative collapsing in that moment must have been devastating for the true believers

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