Are they good, bad, ugly?
Paleo, Keto, Atkins etc. what’s the deal? my instinct is they’re all scams but i ain’t no expert
Study after study has found that the only way to keep weight loss is to permanently change lifestyle. Fad diets all promise results, and may deliver them, but they’re unsustainable over the long term. Keto in particular is expensive and might be bad for your health long-term.
The best diet for your general health is :im-vegan: with supplements (or vitamin B-enriched nooch) or something akin to the Mediterranean diet with a lot of leafy greens and fats.
Why do you say that keto can be bad for health long term? There are people with epilepsy who do it permanently on doctors orders
It can be expensive though. Avocados aren’t cheap
Paleo is made up bullshit. Paleolithic people in most temperate and tropical regions ate like 60-70% plant foods. The only places where people ate huge amounts of meat all the time are like the arctic.
Keto, I think, was a specific diet for like diabetes or some condition. Same with Atkins. Neither were intended for general use.
Something like 90+% of people who try to lose weight dieting gain back all the weight within five years, and often gain more. Dieting is made up BS. Totally unscientific, unserious nonsense.
Of all the fad diets that exist, Paleo is one of the least harmful. A lot of it boils down to eating more vegetables and unprocessed food. Obviously the “we gotta eat like cavemen” aspect is pseudoscientific nonsense, but it could be a lot worse.
Keto was originally used as a way to prevent epileptic episodes, and there’s evidence that it’s effective at this. There’s also evidence that it’s destructive to literally every single organ in your body and correlates to massively reduced life expectancy iirc
The paleo is where some diet guru says “eat like a caveman, cut out all processed sugars and starches in favor of vegetables” and then someone with a typical Western diet consisting of nothing but meat and processed sugars hears it, skips over the word vegetables, and eats nothing but meat.
:sicko-yes: i’ve thought Paleo is stupid forever since i knew a weird bodybuilding household that did it. and these days its completely commercialized like motherfucking paleo bread made of flour-from-a-plant-we-arbitrarily-decided-is-OK. oh CAVEMEN had fucking nut farms they crushed up to make disgusting tortillas? DID THEY THOUGH? nuts & fruits totally haven’t been selectively bred by humans in comparable ways to grains
The only places where people ate huge amounts of meat all the time are like the arctic
and they had to eat a bunch of nasty shit to make up for nutrient shortfalls. seeing a distinct lack of sea urchins and blubber on paleo plates :thonk:
Paleo is made up bullshit. Paleolithic people in most temperate and tropical regions ate like 60-70% plant foods. The only places where people ate huge amounts of meat all the time are like the arctic.
The first time I heard about paleo, it was a guy on Stephen Colbert who emphasized that a big part of the diet was eating a lot of leafy greens and unprocessed fruit and veg. I think some wires got crossed somewhere and people started calling their wacky all raw meat diets “paleo” when that wasn’t what that diet was supposed to be.
Keto worked for me to lose some weight. Once I’m in it my appetite is reduced. It helped me that you can’t cheat on keto or you mess it up for days. Anything that requires you to make conscious decisions for meals can be helpful.
Keto works because it actually changes the way your body breaks down fat and causes it it burn through stored fat quicker. If you’re going to do keto get some ketone testing strips to tell when your in ketosis because the diet is basically pointless other wise.
Long term ketosis isn’t healthy for most people so once you’ve lost your fat or after a few months you’ll want to stop and just start watching your calories as a life style not a diet. Keto is scientific and there is a lot of real info out there amongst all the bull shit so just do your research with a critical mind.
Edit: also you can do keto as vegetarian/vegan, it’s really fucking annoying but totally possible.
For anyone who doesn’t know; Ketosis is the survival process that kicks in when your body is starving to death.
Yeah, so in this case you’re tricking your body into burning it’s “emergency” fat stores while still giving it enough protein that it doesn’t start to burn muscle too. And enough calories from fat that rest of your systems still function. One reason you don’t want to do it long term is you can permanently fuck your metabolism and change the way you break down and store fat.
Nope, sorry but you are objectively completely wrong. Ketoacidosis is a different phenomenon and occurs when your ketone levels are an ORDER OF MAGNITUDE higher than in ordinary ketosis. Ketoacidosis is starving to death. Ketosis is perfectly healthy, works for weight loss, is good for mental tasks because ketones are great brain fuel, and so on. It’s possible to be in ketosis for years and years and NEVER enter ketoacidosis. Ketoacidosis occurs when you go into ketosis and then don’t eat for like six days straight, which no keto diet EVER recommends anyone do.
Eat enough, not too much, mostly plants.
