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The US is willing to kill hundreds of thousands (millions) of people for trying to pass things like small labor reforms i.e the Jakarta Method in Indonesia

Americans are the drug trade, the world supply of opium dropped to almost nothing after Americans retreated from Afghanistan and the Taliban re-established their already right-wing, pre-American invasion policies on poppy crops.

The drug war funds the CIA black budget the same way Civil Asset Forfeiture funds your local police department.

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The USA is willing to let other people kill people in Jakarta. The US military is not doing it themselves which is the difference here. The US DoD would have to sign off on the extrajudicial killings of Afghani civilians vs not engaging in war crimes to stop killing in Indonesia.

The rest of your post compounds on that ignorance.

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Not sure why you’re drawing a magical difference between the US military telling its troops to do it and the US military telling some other troops to do it. Both are happening at the request of the US.

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The word “extrajudicially” should explain that difference

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The USA is willing to let other people kill people in Jakarta. The US military is not doing it themselves which is the difference here.

That’s not what the Jakarta method is, sorry but you don’t know what you’re talking about.

The rest of your post compounds on that ignorance.

You can try saying that but you have a giant gap in your history education, and with that, a fundamentally incomplete way of seeing and interpreting the world, and world events.

You don’t seem to be aware of Afghanistan pre-American intervention, the left direction of Afghanistan’s development (the sovietization of Afghanistan), its former place in the international socialist bloc, or the reasons driving the nation’s current relations with China.

Take a long look at America’s relationship to the UAE and Israeli right-bulwarks and the general relationship and co-operation between the Soviets and the Islamic regions of the world. For whatever mistakes they made there were strong bonds between Soviets and Islam and together they would have built the middle east into the center of the advanced world again. The eastern republics would have landed on the Lunar South pole well before India did this month.

The US has no interest in mutual and internationalist development, the entire core logic of the American project is post-colonial extraction. There aren’t sufficient democratic structures of enough robustness and sophistication to steer the project otherwise. Underlying any and all decisions by the American state is nothing and only capital.

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The Jakarta method was when 1 million people were murdered by the Indonesian military. Why aren’t you blaming the Indonesian government for that as they very willingly took part? It’s the sane situation the USA isn’t killing these people and asking why they don’t stop it is asking why the USA isn’t the world police.

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Oh I an aware of how the extremely small and unpopular communist movement within Afghanistan forced its jackboots down the throats of the working people of Afghanistan.

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The US military is not doing it themselves

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I get that you are a communist and thus almost certainly really bad at thinking but do you think the military is pulling the triggers themselves instead of those they arm and train?

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The US actively backed Suharto to coup the democratically elected government of Indonesia and then western press ran apologia for both the military coup and the murder of 1 million communists, feminists and ethnic minorities by the aforementioned unelected US backed military dictatorship

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“The rest of your post compounds on that ignorance”

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So what you’re saying is, if I were to hire a hitman to take out your sorry white cracker ass, I would be completely justified and be free of any blame?

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I think we should try it

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As long as the proper paperwork is filled out, liberals have no problem with genocide.

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One of the few times reading something actually made me laugh irl. ‘Sorry white cracker ass.’

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