“Your honor, I object!”
“On what grounds?”
“Because it is devastating to my case.”

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It’s actually one of the broad exemptions for public releases of data in Canada. If it is embarassing or economically damaging to the government or any institution. Ontario’s provincial transit agency refused to release records on some of their struggling projects and their reason was basically that it may cause their contractors to lose money lol.

It really makes public releases borderline useless because if it has the potential to give any oversight iver government or a private entity the government contracts out to, the agency can just stop the release

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honestly the existence of that exemption should be more embarassing than any disclosure, but I get the distinction between “embarrassing the power structure” and “embarrassing to constituents”.

obviously, embarrassing power is the REAL crime lmao.

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Do not release the list : assume all Ukrainians in Canada are related to SS Nazis

Release the list : know for sure the vast majority of Ukrainians in Canada are related to SS Nazis

tough choice

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Alberta Advantage did a pod on this recently, Ukranian-Canadians actually were mostly a driving force for leftism in the western provinces - which is expressly why Canada accepted so many Nazis post war, to infiltrate and dismantle these leftist groups

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Word. It should be remembered that the ukronazis were a miniscule number of people, with the oun-b peaking at ~20k members (B stands for Bandera). Bandera had about 20k followers at a time when there were 3-4 million Ukrainian soldiers in the Red Army fertilizing the fields with dead Nazis. During the last phases of the war the Soviets put down the Ukronazi insurgents hard. The survivors fled west where Nato sent them all to the us and Canada so they’d have a force of fash they could use to try to destabilize Ukraine. Afaik Ukronazis never had any power until 91. As in other parts of the ussr they took advantage of the chaos to push their revisitionist history and gain influence with terrified, impoverished, confused people. They had a lot of western backing and ended up with a lot of backing from gangster capitalists who either endorsed their politics or used them as muscle.

There’s also a strong regional divide in Ukraine. Galacia has been the heart of Ukrainian nationalism since initial nation building efforts in the late 19th century. The coup that seized control of the rada in '14 was a Galacian coup and a significant faction was Galacian ukronazis who immediately set out to remove russian speaking ukrainians from legitimacy as members of the ukrainian nation.

It’s not ukrainians, generally. It’s a core of western backed and supported nationalists that are primarily Galacians.

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It’s not ukrainians, generally. It’s a core of western backed and supported nationalists that are primarily Galacians.

It was more like an an alliance between Kiev nationalists and Galician nationalist, with the latter being increasingly sidelined after 2014 in favor of the new wave of Nazis.

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Yep. There was significant anti-labor violence including the burning bombing of a labor hall in 1950, which is very similar to the burning of the labor hall during 2014 Ukraine coup.

https://www.blogto.com/city/2023/10/300-bathurst-bombing-shook-torontos-ukrainian-community/

https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/the-odessa-trade-union-massacre-ten-years-later/

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I guess it wasn’t embarrassing for the fuckers in house of commons when they all cheered for the SS fuckwad.

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Even if I give them the benefit of the doubt (which mps absolutely do not deserve) how do you hear “he fought in WW2 against the Soviet Union” and not think “hmm who was fighting against the USSR?”

Seriously, I don’t believe for a second that they didn’t know what they were doing

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Oh yeah I honestly think they were testing to see how much nazism they can get away with.

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The best possible defense they could have is being extremely stupid

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I mean they already admitted that they accepted 900 war criminals, which is 900 too many. How are the names going to make it even more embarrassing than that?

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I imagine people in the government, like Freeland, may be direct descendants of these nazis.

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List of Nazi war criminals could embarrass nazis

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