60 points

I donā€™t know about China, but Biden is really throwing stones from glass houses here as the leader of a country which is teetering on the edge of civil war, had a full blown insurrection in the past few years, and not only has it failed to prosecute the leader and instigator, it has allowed him to run for election again and there is a possibility of him being elected.

And this is not mentioning that so many in the highest offices ā€œon both sidesā€ are so hilariously corrupt in a country with its national ethos being ā€œthe land of the freeā€.

Iā€™m not happy about this by the way, I donā€™t think a world order built by China would be better than the shitty one we got from the US.

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I donā€™t think a world order built by China would be better than the shitty one we got from the US

I do to be honest.

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24 points

Go live there for a few years and tell us more on your way back.

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Iā€™m going there in February for a few months, thatā€™s a start. Looking forward to it.

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A great way to tell us youā€™re a chauvinist who doesnā€™t know anybody who lives in China and never been there.

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I got to live there for a few months and it was fantastic

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Theyā€™re at least building green energy and trains lol. And less wars. Already better.

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And shrinking deserts! Fucking wild

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Iā€™d rather be under the rule of a hegemony that is composed of many different cultures and in the process of healing than one who is still actively genociding their minorities.

EDIT: Welp, I guess there is no war in Ba Sing Se. Yaā€™ll are expert brigaders, well done.

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Yeah, what weā€™re doing to Native Americans is really unforgivable.

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If we pretend that what the USA does to its own people is acceptable, you still have to consider what it does to the rest of the world. Iā€™m sorry, but in light of all the evidence, I see the US hegemony as evil. I also doubt the western mediaā€™s portrayal of the Uyghur ā€œgenocideā€ and I donā€™t agree that China is in the process of a Holocaust against its own people.

Iā€™m lucky enough to have a job that puts me in contact with a lot of countries all over the global south of the world, and the general opinion from all of them is that China is a lot better prospect than old Western imperialism.

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how are the first peoples doing my guy?

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Iā€™d rather be under the rule of a hegemony that is composed of many different cultures and in the process of healing than one who is still actively genociding their minorities.

Source: Adrian Zenz

China has 56 different major ethinicities and 5 different autonomous regions. The only racist here is you, for believing this shit and knowing nothing about the country. The two fastest growing ethnicities in China are Tibetan followed by Uighur.

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Less than 10% of Native Americans can speak their native language. How many Uighers and Tibetans can speak theirs?

Have you been to a reservation? I remember one that we drove through in Arizona, the Hualapai. It wasnā€™t just a desert, but a salt flat, utterly devoid of vegetation. Along the road, you had dilapidated pre-fabs, occupied of course by the victims that had been placed here. Not all reservations are as harrowing. Iā€™ve visited the Navajo Nation, as well as Lakota and Ute reservations. Poverty is intense, and people do the best they can, but the reality is that these people had their lands stolen from them and were forced to the most marginal places in US, unsuitable for much agriculture and barely suitable for ranching.

There is no healing in these places, rather the victims of genocide are constantly blamed for their own poverty by the settler communities stole their land. The native peoples were devastated by covid due to the lack of healthcare resources as well.

Letā€™s look at the Black American community as well. It was just 3 years ago that the US had its largest protest movement in history against the police killings of unarmed Black men. And what was the response by the government and media? After a moment of groveling, to take back all promises of reform and instead funnel even more money to an increasingly militarized police force, and to engage in a panicked sensationalized crime wave reportage. Police killings continue (1 in 20 homicides are perpetrated by the police), and the economic situation hasnā€™t improved much for Black Americans since the Great Recession lead to a massive seizure of Black household wealth.

The situation in the US isnā€™t healing, itā€™s an oozing pustulate sore. There has been a failure to reinforce voting rights, and anything like reparations, even just targeted relief, is considered a joke and a non-starter in the halls of power. The only healing is in the minds of libs that think that donning Kente cloth and watching Black Panther constitutes absolution.

This of course is to say nothing of the murderous wars waged by the US in Iraq, Laos, Vietnam and elsewhere, and the genocides it co-sponsored in Guatamala and Indonesia. Or the general neo-colonial global financial mechanisms that lock the third world into permanent debt traps and underdevelopment.

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54 points

Iā€™d like to live in China too

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53 points

Yaā€™ll are expert brigaders, well done.

Itā€™s a frontpage post dumbass šŸ’€ weā€™re not brigading weā€™re just commenting on the post that appears on our feeds

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Which country are you talking about? The us? CAnada? Australia? Thereā€™s so many countries actively genociding their minorities you need to narrow it down. Are the French still trying to put the Romani in camps? I havenā€™t looked in to it in a while.

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5 points

go look for Iraqā€™s missing WMDs

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55 points

It 100% would be better. There is nothing in modern Chinese history that remotely approaches the level of imperial devastation the US has wrought on the world. This is not up for debate by any serious person. How many countries has China invaded recently? How many coups have they instigated? Is their ā€œforeign aidā€ designed to help countries develop, or to extract as much wealth as possible while keeping them impoverished, underdeveloped, and dependent on the west for their most basic needs? Has the standard of living in China been going up or down in recent decades? Now ask yourself the same questions about the US.

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12 points

How do we not have a third precinct burning emoji? Anyway, there were two insurrections. Donā€™tu forget the millions of brave people who rose up in the largest protest action in American history, bolstered by millions of comrades around the world, to fight back against the tyranny and oppression of the rabid pigs America deploys as cops.

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That was a local apartment building under construction, not the third precinct. Still a good emote.

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80 points

President of the Ticking Time Bomb Republic says that the country that hasnā€™t had a recession in 45 years is ā€œin troubleā€ and that their 5.2% GDP increase projected by the IMF is ā€œweak growthā€.

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Advanced Economies

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58 points

Advanced economies innovate and make things like NFTs and self-driving random incendiary devices luxury electric cars!

Old, busted economies like China just produce things like buildings, most manufactured products, scientific research, and agricultural products šŸ¤®

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So they basically said ā€œdoesnā€™t count if there is jobs growthā€. As long as you can keep creating 10 precarious gig worker jobs for every 9 full time jobs that are eliminated then the economy is doing great!

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Remeber when the US economy collapsed in 2007 and ever since then itā€™s been propped up by speculation, free money, zomvie companies that cannot and will never turn a profit, bailouts, and outright fraud, all while the living conditions of the people continue to decay and live expectancy plummets?

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10 points

And a year later when Germany experiences similarly minor shrinking and the US Press is like RECESSION

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138 points

Yeah yeah, Iā€™ve heard that before. Thereā€™s a whole cottage industry of ā€œexpertsā€ that have predicted the imminent collapse of China going back decades. Call me when it actually happens.

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33 points

Chinaā€™s economy is stacked like a house of cards and could come crumbling down due to some unforeseen global financial shock, but then again that sounds like most modern economies. I think people just pick on China because, instead of having a group of billionaires stack up the cards, the government does it themselves.

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98 points

Even if that shock happens, China will still be in a better situation. Like, they actually manufacture stuff there, and the government builds infrastructure aggressively. Thatā€™s two massive benefits to economic security and health.

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But what if all that high speed rail disappears, huh? Didnā€™t think about that, stupid tankie.

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58 points

The Chinese government stacks the cards though it actually has the capability to use some toothpicks to hold them in place, and will immediately rebuild it things start to fall apart.

To contrast, the US will flounder and pull their one ā€œlow interest ratesā€ lever while having a political blowout over some sort of stimulus funding package that probably wonā€™t pass.

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Do you repeat something you heard there or can you in detail describe how the worlds greates manufacturing Hub is a economy build on Cardsā€¦

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22 points

china believes in the heart of the cards

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If thatā€™s the case then the USā€™s economy is a card dealer pointing a gun at everyone at the table

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Well, actually itā€™s because Chinaā€™s roaring economic success is both deeply embarassing and existentially dangerous to international fascism and it is absolutely vital that they both discredit China and prevent their thoroughly indoctrinated population from learning anything about China at all costs.

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In fairness, olā€™ Joe just learned about the Tikky Tockies, so he thinks China is all clocks and timers now.

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He can blame himself and his bad economic policies. Pretty simple. Who cares about China anyway?

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Some people donā€™t care about history or politics and view other countries as fictional places.

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41 points

Wait until you see how much the typical Westerner cares about Africa.

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just remember that biden and trump both ran ads accusing the other of being soft on china

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22 points

A politicianā€¦ blaming themself?

Itā€™s so crazy it just might work!

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31 points

Who cares about China anyway?

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