I mean I’d be fine with an 8/10 fantasy outer worlds, but man I want them to capture that lightning in a. Bottle new Vegas thing again.
I really doubt it. To me, the closest they’ve gotten to a New Vegas is probably Tyranny, but it’s a Infinity Engine style game.
I didn’t play the second, bounced off the first after a 10 or so hours, but I consumed Tyranny.
Pillars of Eternity was also made by Obsidian. We’re you thinking of Path of Exile?
I loved Pentiment, too, but I just wouldn’t really compare it to New Vegas tbh. Tyranny has the whole element of building a coalition of factions and multiple endings thing going for it that makes it feel New-Vegasey to me. The comparison is probably a bit of a stretch, but it makes sense to me at least lol.
It was point and click adventure game, not coming remotely close to the genre discussed
FNV is built on the chassis of a game with awful mechanics. It’s actual strong point is the narrative. FNV might as well have been a point-and-click adventure, I’d argue.
Similarly, Avowed will have similar mechanics to Skyrim, FNV, Outer Worlds, etc. In terms of gameplay, it will be the same Bethesda slop. The question is whether or not it will have the narrative to make it stand out.
The elements that made New Vegas good were the team, the near infinite money they had, and how everyone seemed to enjoy the project. From interviews I’ve read with Josh Sawyer and Tess Treadwell, it seems like everything went as smooth as game production could have gone. They were never worried about deadlines or anything, despite the 18 month production time. They wanted to have more Legion territory, but otherwise the game is how they wanted it to be. So I don’t know how those elements would get replicated.
Pentiment is really good though. Outer Worlds is…ok. I guess we’ll see.
Obsidian has bled talent for the last fifteen years, they’re not incapable of good stuff but much of the credited NV writers and staff have left.
I coped about Outer Worlds for like a year but it is sub mediocre. Given the development mess Avowed has apparently been through, and that it looks like just Skyrim, and the showcases that are all just YOU CAN MAKE CHOICES BRO TRUST ME I have worse than no hope. Plus, it’s penned in for the second half of this year but they’ve barely shown it off, this thing is gonna launch busted.
I’m inclined to agree, though a lot of people liked Pentiment and that came out pretty recently so
We must eradicate Joshua Sawyer thought!! It looks aight fwiw but it’s basically Josh’s pet project so
It’s like thinking Blizzard can still make games as good as WC3 (to say nothing of BW or LOD) when Blizzard can’t even make games as good as WOL. When will g*mers learn that you’re supposed to follow the actual developers and not the development studio?
Likely not, it will probably be a more polished Outer Worlds with the added dev time. If the writing is good, it will probably be better than Outer Worlds, but it won’t reach New Vegas levels as the team is fundamentally different.
Yeah. A lot of the magic with NV was specificly crochety old leftists and fellow travellers writing the story, and I think all those guys, Cain and Avellone and Fargus or Feargus, whatever Brian’s name was, aren’t around. I hope the new guys can pick up the torch, no reason they can’t. The original interplay guys weren’t magic, just good writers with an understanding of America’s culture and role in the world.
Fargo, he’s from that family lol the bank wells-Fargo it took me a decade to notice
Yeah, okay, that tracks. One pretty reliable way to build a leftist is to put an empathetic, curious person in one of the big bough dynasties.
after outer worlds was billed as “new vegas in outer space” only to be the most watered down version of that it could possibly be, I’m really not hoping for much. I’ll see what the reviews say and might pirate it then
