Come, vent, chat meme a little. How was everyone’s Easter weekend? I had a uncomfortable but fine dinner with estranged relatives. I’m going to start posting the POC weekly threads on Mondays now.
Really disappointed by the Hexbear crackers for that one thread. Way too many “booohoo poor me and my white feelings” with way too many upvotes. At some point, it’s my own fault for being disappointed in Hexbear Because that means I held them to, too high of a standard, and I should know better.
Didn’t realize that thread had blown up into a full on struggle session. Sucks that anytime a POC points out a legitimate concern people come out of the woodwork to minimize their concerns.
I just checked that thread again, and damn, I got out called out by the resident cracker who constantly malds about the word “cracker” but he didn’t bother tagging me like the coward he is lmao. If you check his history, it’s very obvious he has a problem with people who aren’t white, and he only gets away with it because Hexbear is too white and a lot of his bullshit flies under the radar of most white people.
But he’s an afterthought that barely merits real attention. The actual people I don’t feel comfortable about are the white trans people who said, “I do the same with cis people too.” Look, Angel is also trans, and if they wanted to make a point about not trusting cis progressives in the same way, Angel would’ve done so. But they didn’t. It’s just another way for white people to make everything be about themselves.
What gets me is if you’re talking about who I think you’re talking about, he totally curved anything I had to say. I deliberately addressed him and he’d have rather responded to the guy who responded to me rather than me directly like he’s one of these .works crackers; shit’s honestly sickening.
And he’s still curving me to this day-- I’m beginning to think ol boy has a problem with Black folk and Black views. The type of cracker to only want you around if you’re willing to pledge 100% uncritical assimilationism, fucking disgusting
Was it a full-on “white people are oppressed” bogus situation?
If not, and it’s what I think it is, let 'em vent for now.
Once they do so, many will know better.
I upvoted your comment and agree with you, but getting worked up over what shenanigans white people are up to and their lack of self-criticism at times will just get you flummoxed constantly.
The best policy is to patiently explain that they’re wrong to see themselves as victims of racism.
Some will balk and whine, others will realize their wrong.
It’s going to be a long time till white people are a minority so let’s not ruin our mental health over it.
That’s my policy, anyway.
it was more like “saying you dont immediately trust white leftist makes ME sad, what about MY feeling” and “were not gonna get a working class movement like this!” (implying that thats poc peoples fault). and yeah i am no longer arguing with these people online, i have not seen any reason to think that i am capable of making a white person understand something that they are determined to misunderstand. im think ill leave that work to my other poc comrades and save my mental energy for irl crackers.
lol You got it. Maybe I’ll try to bridge the gap.
Yeah, they may not have ultimately meant it, but they definitely seemed to ultimately imply what you were relaying here of that interaction.
We need solidarity but it must be coalitionary as well and that means recognizing that some groups are more oppressed than others. I once saw a POC comrade say that “it’s not an oppression Olympics” but I disagree with what they were getting at; if you’re Autistic, trans, and POC, then you’re more oppressed than a white Autistic person or POC person or trans person, imho.
That isn’t to say that that singularly trans or POC or Autistic person are not suffering, but immediately, say, talking about BIPOC and how we’re all " not gonna get a working-class movement like this!" is a wrong look and sends the wrong message.
Honestly, we need to communicate better, imho.
Just looked at that thread, Angel’s comment really rings true. Having to wait for someone to really show their true colors before I can bring it up with other white friends since otherwise i’ll pick up a reputation as an instigator Usually with Europeans it’s when you accidentally send the secret activation codes to trigger an unhinged rant about Romani people.
On the topic of hexbear crackery, I’ve been seeing some users post yakub stuff in their comments. I thought hexbear banned it a while back or am I wrong? Should I have been reporting them?
The Nation of Islam believe that white people were created in an ancient greek lab by a scientist named Yakub (Who is also the biblical Jacob). Because most white people don’t and never will experience actual racism something that sounds like a racist conspiracy theory against them is humorous to them and so they have co-opted it. The problem is that it very easily and depressingly often takes a step further and ends up becoming a joke on black people.
There is a lore of this man, named Yakub in Arabic, but Jacob as in English… in the Nation of Islam…
He is a self-hating African man, with an intelligent brain (in fact, he was born with a big head)…
He tried to group up the most light-skinned people, and decided to do eugenics on them on an isle called Patmos, where he practiced eugenics and selective breeding for thousands of years before dying…
I… see… I think…
I wanted to respond with “hey, what the fuck does this mean” or “I don’t get it” but upon further reading, that’s it. There’s nothing else to get. It’s exactly as you said. Thank you for explaining.
Next question, what does crackers “posting yakub stuff” mean? And why is it banned? Does it mean posting stuff that would be considered yakubian white devil shit or is it the referencing of yakub that’s bad?
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Admins, please pin this thread.
Easter was fine… our family and I went to a Catholic church and the usual outings (yk, it’s quite multi-ethnic there, with there being South-Asians, Filipinos, Polish etc.)
Honestly, I feel bored and hollow, especially after a lack of sleep (6h) and some caffeine resulting from one of those drinks I had in the outing… (matcha bubble tea I think)
I’m trying to catch with reading Das Kapital… now at Chapter 14…
Don’t worry pal, you can pass easily Chapters 4-6, then after you deal with larger ones like 7, 8-9,
Chapter 10 is a sudden shitshow, that’s followed by an okayish 11-13, followed by Chapter 14 then 15… (Agh…, I dread it now that I go closer, it’s like 152 pages or somethin’ )
I’ve resorted at this point to just copy and pasting down the damn chapters and underlining anything interesting on google docs… I’ll dm them to ye…
It’s admittedly shoddy, but hey, it kinda helps for me I guess
Had an argument with a white person on reddit, now my day is ruined
