Come, vent, chat meme a little. How was everyone’s Easter weekend? I had a uncomfortable but fine dinner with estranged relatives. I’m going to start posting the POC weekly threads on Mondays now.

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Really disappointed by the Hexbear crackers for that one thread. Way too many “booohoo poor me and my white feelings” with way too many upvotes. At some point, it’s my own fault for being disappointed in Hexbear Because that means I held them to, too high of a standard, and I should know better.

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Didn’t realize that thread had blown up into a full on struggle session. Sucks that anytime a POC points out a legitimate concern people come out of the woodwork to minimize their concerns.

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Oh yeah, definitely.

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I just checked that thread again, and damn, I got out called out by the resident cracker who constantly malds about the word “cracker” but he didn’t bother tagging me like the coward he is lmao. If you check his history, it’s very obvious he has a problem with people who aren’t white, and he only gets away with it because Hexbear is too white and a lot of his bullshit flies under the radar of most white people.

But he’s an afterthought that barely merits real attention. The actual people I don’t feel comfortable about are the white trans people who said, “I do the same with cis people too.” Look, Angel is also trans, and if they wanted to make a point about not trusting cis progressives in the same way, Angel would’ve done so. But they didn’t. It’s just another way for white people to make everything be about themselves.

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What gets me is if you’re talking about who I think you’re talking about, he totally curved anything I had to say. I deliberately addressed him and he’d have rather responded to the guy who responded to me rather than me directly like he’s one of these .works crackers; shit’s honestly sickening.

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And he’s still curving me to this day-- I’m beginning to think ol boy has a problem with Black folk and Black views. The type of cracker to only want you around if you’re willing to pledge 100% uncritical assimilationism, fucking disgusting

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If you talk about someone behind their back on Hexbear (without tagging them) then that’s fucking rude and should at least net you a warning or temp-ban, imho.

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Was it a full-on “white people are oppressed” bogus situation?

If not, and it’s what I think it is, let 'em vent for now.

Once they do so, many will know better.

I upvoted your comment and agree with you, but getting worked up over what shenanigans white people are up to and their lack of self-criticism at times will just get you flummoxed constantly.

The best policy is to patiently explain that they’re wrong to see themselves as victims of racism.

Some will balk and whine, others will realize their wrong.

It’s going to be a long time till white people are a minority so let’s not ruin our mental health over it.

That’s my policy, anyway.

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it was more like “saying you dont immediately trust white leftist makes ME sad, what about MY feeling” and “were not gonna get a working class movement like this!” (implying that thats poc peoples fault). and yeah i am no longer arguing with these people online, i have not seen any reason to think that i am capable of making a white person understand something that they are determined to misunderstand. im think ill leave that work to my other poc comrades and save my mental energy for irl crackers.

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lol You got it. Maybe I’ll try to bridge the gap.

Yeah, they may not have ultimately meant it, but they definitely seemed to ultimately imply what you were relaying here of that interaction.

We need solidarity but it must be coalitionary as well and that means recognizing that some groups are more oppressed than others. I once saw a POC comrade say that “it’s not an oppression Olympics” but I disagree with what they were getting at; if you’re Autistic, trans, and POC, then you’re more oppressed than a white Autistic person or POC person or trans person, imho.

That isn’t to say that that singularly trans or POC or Autistic person are not suffering, but immediately, say, talking about BIPOC and how we’re all " not gonna get a working-class movement like this!" is a wrong look and sends the wrong message.

Honestly, we need to communicate better, imho.

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You’re talking about the post by Angel, right?

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yeah, the thread that got locked.

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that one thread amirite heheheh

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that was some top tier posting on your part, really upset the mayos

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The orangutans? The mayo monkeys?

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Just looked at that thread, Angel’s comment really rings true. Having to wait for someone to really show their true colors before I can bring it up with other white friends since otherwise i’ll pick up a reputation as an instigator Usually with Europeans it’s when you accidentally send the secret activation codes to trigger an unhinged rant about Romani people.

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