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Is there a compilation of Putin just dunking on tha yankee? I don’t want to have to hear a yankee speaking, if I could, and people truly are hyping up the interview.

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Damn that’s kinda awesome. Really shows that he’s very aware of Tuckers game. “I’m going to speak and you’re going to listen, and if you really have any questions go ahead and show the world how fucking stupid you are you wannabe CIA asset.”

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As he is saying it nods (it’s true)

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Libs in my circles have latched onto a part where he (they claim, I haven’t watched it) says the molotov-ribbentrop pact was to protect Czechoslovakia which is pretty brainwormy. I’ve been responding to ribbentrop shit for the last few days because of the uptick in discussion about it.

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Germany and Poland already shared the annexation of parts of Czechoslovakia by then. How would the Molotov-Ribbentrop plan change that?

The plan of the Western powers was for Germany and Poland to invade the USSR, after giving them Czechoslovakia, while Japan enters the war from the east.

The Brits signed the Dusseldorf agreement after Munich (annexation of Sudetenland) to establish industrial cooperation between the British and Nazi Germany, months before Germany invasion of Poland. Clearly they did not expect to declare war on Nazi Germany at all. They all fully expected Hitler to turn east towards the USSR.

Stalin’s diplomats engineered the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact at the last minute (apparently without Hitler’s involvement) to drive a wedge into this plan, forcing Germany to invade Poland, and in turn forcing the British and the French to declare war on Germany.

The entire Japanese cabinet resigned after the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was signed. Like, seriously, ask yourself, why would the entire Japanese government resign just because two foreign countries signed a neutrality pact?

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Question, but how could Hitler to turn east towards the USSR if Poland is in the way? Unless they expected the Poles and Nazis to collaborate? or did they believe he wouldn’t invade France and do the USSR next? Is there any evidence of this?

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I assume they misunderstood him in the first place, cause it was not to protect Czechoslovakia, it was in response to the betrayal of the Czechs. There was no protecting them by the time the pact was signed

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Yeah I assumed something about that was wrong. I haven’t watched it. Maybe worth checking what he did say if they’re going to go on about it forever.

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List of responses:

  1. that’s different.
  2. That’s whataboutism.
  3. That was so long ago.
  4. You can’t expect me to know everything.
  5. Nuh uh
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I generally don’t call it an invasion. The government of poland had fled the country by the time the ussr moved into the east almost entirely unopposed because the country was ungoverned. They moved into an ungoverned territory and saved 2 million jews in the process. Then later they saved the rest of the country. And preserved it, and its culture, under lebensraum both of which would have been deleted like the americans did to the lands they captured.

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Yes but he also was willing to do it if France would let them in and/or if Romania would let them use their airspace which Romania agreed to. The problem was Britain and France intentionally stalled this with fake promises of an alliance until Poland decided to help Germany invade Czechoslovakia at which point the west completely capitulated. Chamberlain is honestly less evil somehow than the Polish government

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So before World War II, Poland collaborated with Hitler and although it did not yield to Hitler’s demands, it still participated in the partitioning of Czechoslovakia together with Hitler. As the Poles had not given the Danzig Corridor to Germany, and went too far, pushing Hitler to start World War II by attacking them. Why was it Poland against whom the war started on 1 September 1939? Poland turned out to be uncompromising, and Hitler had nothing to do but start implementing his plans with Poland.

Saying that Poland refusing to cede Danzig to Germany was the cause of WW2 is a bit iffy I think. Why is Danzig a legitimate target to cede while the Sudetenland was an outrage?

It would be nice if people were less easily impressed with blood and soil propaganda.

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Does anyone else kinda find it annoying that Reddit is mad that Putin was giving a history lesson? I mean I didn’t watch the interview (and I won’t tbh) but it seems pretty silly to go after him for providing historical context to the region.

There are other reasons to be mad at Putin and tucker, but this wasn’t it.

I saw posts about putting explaining the formation of the earth and the big bang on reddit. It’s silly.

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Settler colonists are trained from birth to advocate that bygones be bygones because that’s the only moral framework under which they can even try justify living on stolen land.

Therefore, other people remembering history is a direct threat to the anglo settler colonists and they will react accordingly.

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Settler colonists are trained from birth to advocate that bygones be bygones because that’s the only moral framework under which they can even try justify living on stolen land.

I never thought of it like that, it makes so much sense why Americans and anglos think that way.

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settler colonists are trained from birth to advocate that bygones be bygones

Ugh I immediately thought of how reporters were asking the victims of the Charleston Church Shooting immediately after if they forgave the killer.

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bygones be bygones

This is countered by “debt comes with interest.”

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it seems pretty silly to go after him for providing historical context to the region.

It is silly, but it’s also entirely predictable. Since they (reddit libs) have no concept of the historical context, when it is provided, all their shitty surface-level vibes-based reasoning for supporting NATO and Ukrainian fascists starts crumbling. So of course they’re going to get upset at being informed of history. It triggers their cognitive dissonance and makes them look like the fools they are.

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Liberals are deathly allergic to context, much like how a vampire is terrified of garlic

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Vampirism is just a virus that’s anti-italian.

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52 points

I actually enjoyed the history lesson

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this is just harry potter brain with a slightly older version of harry potter

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no its noooooot, harry potter is racist, xenophobic, transphobic, neoliberal propaganda with a terribly constructed world!

Tolkien’s work on the other hand is racist, xenophobic, christo-monarchist propaganda with a well constructed world!

… and i kinda like it so you’ll find that makes it cool and good 😎

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Tolkien as a human outside the book ended up being a good person with good intent, rowling is a fascist with only hate in her heart

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Yeah Tolkien felt bad about his characterisation of the Orcs, and despite it clearly having a gentry much of the Shire (Tolkiens ideal society) is appealing to more Agrarian minded Socialists.

And even Aragorn is far from an entirely noble figure, the work is never completely comfortable with an absolute monarch divinely chosen, even a good and non-intervening one.

He’s a utopian Catholic basically, sure he wrongly accepts the concept of class collaboration, but that’s because he believes (also wrongly) that such a society can be founded on compassion and mutual co operation, resulting in the class differences slowly fading away.

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no its noooooot, harry potter is racist, xenophobic, transphobic, neoliberal propaganda with a terribly constructed world!

Tolkien’s work on the other hand is racist, xenophobic, christo-monarchist propaganda with a well constructed world!

oh damn I didn’t know that

I just meant it along the lines of them both revolving around a bunch of mayos in a meadow with random magical crap happening

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I’ll explain why you’re wrong later. It’d been a long day.i need to make a Tolkien copypasta for myself sometime so I don’t have to repeat myself manually every time this weak shit comes up

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You’ll ruffle some feathers here, but lowkey kinda true lol

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@America, can you please retrieve your clown from Russia?

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Which one? Putin was America’s guy, 25 years ago, when Russia was in danger of electing the communist party.

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To be fair, he’s Russia’s clown in America, and he just happened to have a state sponsored vacation in Russia. No one in America wants him either, which is why he has his own thing now.

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I would once again like to remind everyone that america doesn’t need anyone’s help.

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You understand Putin called him out as a failed CIA asset for the entire world to see right? What this interview was in my opinion was Tucker APPLYING to be a Russian stooge and hilariously failing because Putin would never hire someone with past and current ties to the CIA.

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One theory I heard is that Tucker was auditioning for Trump’s VP pick, which is not a contradiction at all among certain factions of the CIA.

If he had somehow managed to get very positive responses from Putin, he could leverage that to boost his credentials as a “serious candidate” and reinforce Trump’s platform on the Ukraine war. Although I don’t know if Trump’s ego would allow that.

Either way Putin clearly didn’t give him the win he was looking for at all lol.

(I still think the main reason the Republicans are so opposed to the Ukraine war is because they don’t have the money laundering fronts set up in Ukraine like the Democrats do, so they are seething at the Democrats blatantly transferring billions of dollars there and benefiting from it)

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I didn’t say he was good at being Russia’s clown. He’s just very pro-Russia for very wrong reasons. He wants to be used by Russia for money. He doesn’t care about anything except what he can get for himself. He’s just a whore that no one wants but he hopes Russia is willing to pay for.

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To be fair,

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