Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.

They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.

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Considering China is a capitalist state much like America, not sure!

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Damn where is America imprisoning and executing billionaires alongside harsh anti corruption campaigns in the government, maybe I’ll move there

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I don’t care if they’re holding people accountable for corruption. Why does a country supposably aiming for socialism have BILLIONAIRES in the FIRST PLACE??

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They have them as a byproduct of Deng’s reforms which allowed rapid development of the means of production, they need to be managed of course and suppressed by the people’s democratic dictatorship, which they are. Eventually development will reach the point where they are no longer useful and can be fully done away with.

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it was either embrace partial capitalism or get strangled out of the world economy. Deng’s reforms brought a massive influx of foreign investment and expertise.

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Dogmatism and ideological purity are blinding you. It certainly should be a conversation about why billionaires exist in China, especially as they strengthen their safeguards against capital flight, but their existence alone does not discredit the great strides of progress China has made under SwCC in under a century. There are few examples of such a large mass of people seeing such substantive improvements in their lives. No matter the system, such dramatic change will result in unforseen consequences because there is so much change occuring. The measure of the response though is what is important: protecting themselves from capital flight, placing party leadership within corporations, focusing on carbon reduction through reduced pollution, tree planting, and alternative energy sources are all measurable ways the government is correcting. Where else do you see such response by those in power for their citizens? The Chinese approval for their government is incredibly high, and this is why

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They’ve made infinitly more progress eliminating billionaires than your flavour of socialism has

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Have you done any reading on Socialism with Chinese characteristics?

Have you read “On the Governance of China”?

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Profits of a corporation benefit its shareholders, usually concentrated to very few individuals.

Who are the beneficiaries when the profits go to the state?

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Li: At the moment, the Chinese the party state has proven an extraordinary ability to change. I mean, I make the joke: “in America you can change the political party, but you can’t change the policies. In China you cannot change the party, but you can change policies.” So, in the past 66 years, China has been run by one single party. Yet the political changes that have taken place in China in these past 66 years have been wider, and broader, and greater than probably any other major country in modern memory.

Pilger: So in that time China ceased to be communist. Is that what you’re saying?

Li: Well, China is a market economy, and it’s a vibrant market economy. But it is not a capitalist country. Here’s why: there’s no way a group of billionaires could control the Politburo as billionaires control American policy-making. So in China you have a vibrant market economy, but capital does not rise above political authority. Capital does not have enshrined rights. In America, capital — the interests of capital and capital itself — has risen above the American nation. The political authority cannot check the power of capital. That’s why America is a capitalist country, and China is not.

from https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/

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Capitalism is when you execute capitalists for undermining the will of the state

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