Comment by Neuromancer@lemm.ee on HAHAHAHAHHAHA SUFFER

I lean right. I have no clue how Barbie was woke.

It’s a depiction of reverse-patriarchy as critique of patriarchy in our existing society. The Barbies hold the social status of men in our existing society, while the Kens occupy the social status of women.

I mean yes, Ken has always been an accessory to Barbie. But failing to understand how this was platformed in the movie as a centrepoint of the feminist critique it makes is just willful stupidity on your or anyone else’s part. It’s a dumbass “the curtains are blue” kind of take intended to terminate all deeper thought that might result in anybody learning anything or demonstrating growth as a person.

Charitably to our new fediverse friends, I’d be willing to believe that it’s not willful, just that liberal ideology makes the characteristics of a product seem more center stage than feminist politics

mods you can’t remove every random rightoid that wanders in here - where are we going to get food to play with

We’re defederating from lemm.ee one user at a time.

hey there have been like 3 of em that seemed cool.

I’ve seen maybe one

Lean into a pit, binch.

(posted through a veil of tears).

(For real, it’s because right/left is not the issue. Extremes are)

You say on the socialist instance like a dumbass lmao.

I’ll give you that.

After reading it over and over, I really should have worded it differently. I just wanted to address the idea of equating leaning right and some extreme moron on the right. Just for that person I was replying to though.

The issue is “extremes” (plural).

What do we on the furthest left want? We want a different economic system, bringing true equity to all people. We believe that no matter what happens we will be forced into violence to achieve this because under absolutely no circumstances will the ruling class give up their power willingly, they will kill us all to stop it, forcing the inevitable violent clash to occur as we’ve seen several times now.

What do those on the furthest right want? The 14 words and a hierarchical patriarchal hell that enslaves everyone outside of straight white males to the benefit of them, and even among them it will be the ruling group only rather than all.

Liberals on the other hand want to maintain the status quo, despite knowing that it is going to destroy the entire planet, and despite knowing that outside of the imperial core life is a living hell under capitalism, where 70% of the world’s population is exploited for the benefit of the cluster of privileged predominantly white global-north countries, typically euphemised in the media as the “international community”.

Socialists are the least extreme of these 3.

Leaning right in 2023 is, in fact, an extremely moronic position.

ur on a comm in a revolutionary socialist instance hahaha

I’m a lemmygrad user it’s a pain to have to go to hexbear, type up point to look through them all, then copy paste back to the other tab

simply copy our emotes to lemmygrad

Unless thats something hexbear devs are working on, I think it’s pretty much done, I don’t think it’s on the list for dess or nutomic

Absolutely crying that i am exposed to this kind of posting on hexbear

Tbf this is dunk tank so all the posts here are just like it

Maybe its better viewed as an opportunity

(For real, it’s because right/left is not the issue. Extremes are)

define “extremes”

edit: awwww this one too I wanted to bat them around for a while

They aint banned yet

maybe they’ll be back

What do you think of fact that the political center is different at different times and places? Are all of those respective centers correct, is it merely a matter of coincidence that our current center is the Truth, or is this golden mean thinking a load of horseshit?

I did attempt to explain in another post, but I’ll also reply here.

I’m not saying the center is the ideal. I’m not saying people at the edges of the political compass are “extreme”. Being in the center would be like trying to serve the same plate to two different patrons at a restaurant. I personally think you should pick a side and stand up for your ideals.

However, issues that arise should be resolved with critical thinking in mind. Bad faith arguments in an attempt to hold your position is extreme. Ignoring evidence supporting other conclusions is extreme.

That kinda shit, you know?

I think the words that more accurately make your point are “dishonest” or "cynical "

Can’t do the grade school level difficulty job of defining your terms huh

I view extremes, in the context of political leanings, as being positions that do not allow for new or competing information. Holding on to a position at any cost, despite evidence of the contrary.

I can “define my terms” for you, but would that really change anything?

I just thought it was a bit funny to see so many replies to such a one-off and throwaway comment.

I do want to know though… is it that everyone thinks I’m a troll? I’m not familiar with this particular instance overall, but I’m not a stranger to general socialist content. I figured it would be understood that “extremes” would refer to political ideology that involves sticking with a party at any cost, without ever thinking critically about the ideology and their positions.

I hope this clears it up for you.

I can “define my terms” for you, but would that really change anything?

why are fascists so unwilling to just define their terms? do you know your terms are explicitly fascist, or have you just never examined the terms some youtubers or whatever handed to you?

By your deffinition of not allowing new competing information, libs fit that definition even more eo than the cretin in the op. And you know? I agree thats the escence of being a reactionary someone who oposes progress.

And by that logic any backward class that oposes progres are extremists and should be removed by force if necesary.

I agree.

thank you for coming to the dunk tank for us. it saves us the effort

You saying “say it louder for the people in the back” gives me everything i need to generalize you thanks

define “extremes”

edit: awwwww i wanted to play with this one

I agree extremes are bad. I lean right on some issues. I lean left on others. I’m just not into extreme views in general.

I want to know what issues they lean to the right on. Like, if it’s guns, then they might just be ignorant, maybe.

I just wanted to surprise them with an extreme given the lack of awareness of where they are.

Even the wealthiest countries in the world have human beings sleeping in the streets, despite also having more than enough resources to guarantee housing for every single person. As far as the law is concerned, the only thing that matters is that these desperate people must not be allowed to break into empty abandoned houses for shelter, as this violates the infinitely more important private property rights of the homeowner to own an empty abandoned house.

“Centrism” is pretty extreme, it just doesn’t feel that way because the horrors are so normalized

This is an excellent way to put it, and another great example of an extreme.

There are people, like in the OP, that hold delusional views on the right. That doesn’t mean everyone is, which was my way of addressing the comment I was replying to.

Refusing to pick a side when there are clear reasons to not be on the right is fucking extreme. I should have included it in my reply, but it was meant to be a quick little one-off and not a deep discussion on extreme politics.

okay but why equivocate between the left and right? you’re painting an equality between people who want to make the world a better place and people who want to be the boot stomping down on faces forever.

I should have been more clear on what I meant. Just that having slightly right leaning opinions is not the same as the OP’s insanity.

I really didn’t mean for it to come off that way, so I apologize.

It’s the dunk tank.

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