this is vaguely related to the string theory related post from a day or two ago, it’s all bazinga science folks TL;DW string theory is a big thing because people that read pop science really liked it and it took a long time for physicists to come out in force and say “this is untestable garbage”

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Justin Roiland was always a piece of shit but his nonsensical internal calculation of “if multiverse, no one anywhere matters so be a murderous asshole” was a staggeringly bad cognitohazard that may very well have contributed to the recent “people I don’t like are NPCs” cryptofascist :brainworms:

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Roiland is a piece of shit, but the show is very explicit about how letting everyone you care about die, and then jumping into an alternate universe where you didn’t do this is traumatizing.

The show doesn’t go more than an episode without reminding the viewer that everybody including Rick hates Rick for behaving like a detached asshole.

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but the show is very explicit about how letting everyone you care about die, and then jumping into an alternate universe where you didn’t do this is traumatizing.

I’ve heard this before. Does the same “totally don’t admire this nihilistic murderous asshole, pinkie promise you won’t” message that missed so much of its loud fandom for years also apply to Roiland’s “what if Back to the Future, but Doc Brown is a pedophile lololololol” pilot for the show, or for that matter this “just kidding, just want to see how people react, this is only ironic fantasies about brutally hurting children on multiple levels” cartoon short here?

(CW: “ironic” physical and sexual abuse of children, torture, snuff)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZQbX7_Eeg4

The show doesn’t go more than an episode without reminding the viewer that everybody including Rick hates Rick for behaving like a detached asshole.

It still gives the perpetrator most of the screen time, lines, plot armor, and basic invincibility. It’s hard to really punish someone who by necessity must keep returning because the show runners say so to do more wacky edgelord hijinks next time around.

Also, the premise of the show requires that that murderous nihilism be technically justified by the plot. That’s bullshit. There’s no reason for a multiverse’s existence to necessiate the conclusion of “no one matters, exploiting and murdering people is cool and good now” outside of Roiland’s own beliefs.

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Yeah, it is an exploration of the ultimate liberal paradox. What would it mean if a smart rich person was mean? To the liberal mind, it means they must be correct. Which given that he show it entertaining it is hard for liberals to understand they are wrong.

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Roiland is a piece of shit, but the show is very explicit about how letting everyone you care about die, and then jumping into an alternate universe where you didn’t do this is traumatizing.

Is it implied that that’s the only reason why you shouldn’t do it?

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No, there’s a few episodes where the survivors (and his adopted family) tell the guy who did it how fucked up it was, then he does it again. I can’t say they hate him for that specifically because there’s so many other things everyone he cares about hate him for it’s unclear.

They also go back to the old universes a couple times to see what happened after he irreversibly fucked up the planet, but also removed himself from the equation. The show is pretty clear that every he loves is better off without him.

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Or how about Dan Harman, the other co-creator of “Rick and Morty,” who filmed himself

CW: yuk

spoiler

r*ping a babydoll.

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I didn’t even know that yet but at this point pretty much anything new that I hear about the owners of the Rick and Morty franchise is sure to be full of “ironic” :awooga: :libertarian-alert: :hypersus: cravings from one of two deeply privileged worker-hating rich white assholes.

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And Dan Harmon is the good one. He did a big project of apologizing for having being am alcoholic racist serial abuser that got to the top in Hollywood. He seems to be genuinely repentant and trying to do as much good as he can without risking his position on top of the pile. Which is insufficient, but way more than anyone else in his position has tried so it is weird to see.

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