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uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

Uncritical support to the ideology of Juche and its implementation

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Lemme ask you this, does the US doing something bad nullify the wrongdoings of another country/regime?

When they’re in the process or about to cause a humanitarian disaster in said country, yes.

Saddam’s regime was terrible, however sanctions, plus destroying vital infrastructure such as water treatment facilities and power plants during war were infinitely worse. The sanctions on the DPRK that have been going on since 1950 compounded the nightmare of destroying all the infrastructure in the country and the killing of 20% of the population and are still ongoing.

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Yankees really lived through Afghanistan and Iraq and learned about Vietnam and still think they are being given accurate narratives of state enemies now. I had hoped by now we might see even the most rudimentary skepticism of US media but alas.

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41 points

Not to mention Saddam was our guy for years and did exactly what we wanted him to.

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Any supposed wrongdoing of the DPRK pales in comparison to what the USA did to the Korean people. Nine million Korean corpses lay at the feet of American imperialism, a number that continues to grow due to continued sanctions, spying, military exercises and aggression. The alleged wrongdoings of the DPRK’s entire history do not even amount to the misery inflected by a single hour of American empire.

I’m not a coward who feels the need to avoid taking stances. I’m not a coward who finds moral equivalence in imperialism and defense against imperialism. The fact that the DPRK exists at all in such a context of overt hostility should be regarded as a supreme achievement. The DPRK manages to still stand, despite its hardships and this is a testament to the resilience of the Korean people and the power of socialism.

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Seriously like. Even the absolute worst dubious, unproven accusations of what the DPRK’s “Crimes” are pale in comparison to what the US and allies did to them. And thats just their crimes against Korea.

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What wrongdoings? Who has North Korea ever invaded?

South Korea doesn’t count, you can’t invade yourself

In the American Civil War the North didn’t invade the South either and in both cases the North was clearly in the right

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South Korea doesn’t count, you can’t invade yourself

North Korea and South Korea were separate entities following the surrender of Imperial Japan, with the North administered by the Soviets and the South administered by the US. North Korea 100% invaded South Korea, both with troops and supporting insurgency groups.

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How can you have lived through the War on Terror and trust anything the U.S. says about its designated enemies?

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Doing something bad

yes the us is just doing an oopsie BEING THE PRIME SOURCE OF FASCISM, IMPERIALISM, AND CAPITALISM FOR THE LAST FUCKING CENTURY

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uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

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Many people are saying it!

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if you think a WC in NK would be worse than in Saudi Arabia you’re up to your eyeballs in amerikkkan propaganda

Death to America

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I don’t know why you are talking about Saudi Arabia. Qatar is not Saudi Arabia.

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Lol. You owned yourself

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Not really. I didn’t know that Saudi Arabia will host one because I really don’t care about fifa trash. But the meme is about Qatar and NC. So talking about Saudi Arabia is still kinda weird but no one is saying Saudi Arabia would be better than NC. The post just implies Qatar is better, while you totally could understand the meme to be about harming the WC branding and pushing the limits too far in general.

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Saying you don’t know why people are talking about Saudia Arabia regarding the world cup when the world cup is in Saudi Arabia really demonstrates the people who are interested in this story because of following football and those interested because American propoganda told them to be.

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Lol I don’t care about fifa trash. I am not complaining about where the WC is, as fifa is corrupt to no end. I didn’t know the WC will be in Saudi Arabia because I don’t care about anything fifa. Didn’t even imply that NC is worse than Saudi Arabia. I knew the WC was in qatar because a couple thousand Immigrants died in the construction of the Stadions. The meme was about Qatar and they talked about Saudi Arabia, so I expressed my confusion but apparently that makes me brainwashed lol

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Yeah that’s in 11 years I think lol. Still though the point stands

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The men’s world cup is still 3 years away and the women payled in NZ this year though so I’m not sure that you’re referring to?

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Oh thanks I didn’t know. I don’t care about fifa trash.

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Are you really suggesting the DPRK is worse than Qatar? Lmao.

Only the US will kill 20 percent of a population, establish a right wing military dictatorship in the south, and paint the democratic and progressive north as an evil regime worse than an absolute monarchy.

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I’m Canadian.

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That’s a good point. Let me amend her post:

Only the US and America Jr. will kill 20 percent of a population, establish a right wing military dictatorship in the south, and paint the democratic and progressive north as an evil regime worse than an absolute monarchy.

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Oh, the country where after ww2 a waffen ss tattoo would get you in.

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41 points

y’all been taking some Ls lately. If I were Canadian I’d pretend to be American

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Doesn’t change anything. Most of the US allies are US vassals nowadays.

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Just a small correction: a vassal is a person subservient to a feudal lord. A vessel is a container of some sort or a ship.

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71 points

Korea has lots of big stadiums and the people there seems to like football so why couldn’t they host a world cup?

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I don’t think the DPRK wants to give an opportunity to basically any country in the world to plant spies. Considering the US used visits of the Atomic Energy Commission to infiltrate the DPRK in the 90s, welcoming thousands and thousands of difficult to vet corporate reps sounds like an open invitation for infiltration.

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Yeah I don’t think they shouldn’t be allowed, but I also believe it would be a bad idea.

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so why couldn’t they host a world cup?

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Well according to a .world poster in this thread that you and I can’t see from our instance, the DPRK has slaves. But don’t worry, this won’t happen because a lemmy.ca user thinks that “Letting that many foreigners into North Korea would be a PR disaster for the Country.”

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I’d love to say it would be a PR disaster for American news, but realistically people have become too invested in the American Cinematic Universe to be swayed by what visitors have to say.

The lib I work with believes all the nonsense about North Korea and I’ve tried explaining to him that North Korea literally has non-North Korean tour guides who absolutely allow you to go where you want but usually prefer if you don’t because no one would be able to communicate with you if you got lost, and your vacation would be wasted if you had no idea where to go, but he believes that it’s all just a show, as though any country on the planet actually puts in that kind of effort to convince foreigners. Every time I tell him there are literally people who’ve posted positive news in regards to being there, or about a non-North Korean who works there, he still wants to believe what the news says or whatever negative claims are being made about it, and so he challenged me to go to North Korea on vacation and ‘find out the truth for both of us’ (he already believes I’ll come back with horror stories), and so I challenged him and asked “If I go there and find out that it’s all nonsense, that the country is fine and peaceful, would you believe me?”. I personally hate traveling, and going on vacation anywhere is a chore I loathe, and so surely if I go to such effort then he’ll believe me, right? His response was a reluctant “I’ll be more likely to believe it”

This guy doesn’t want to believe he’s been lied to about North Korea; literally no amount of evidence will sway him; it’s almost like this is some kind of investment for him (I say him, but this applies to libs in general).

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I’ll be going to NK next year. I really can’t wait.

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