Do not mistake me as defending him, please, but this is not how I experienced random libs on the street talking about him. I think that there is legitimately a huge portion of the population of the US who had no idea he was a creep and had only heard of him as the funny uncle that walked around with Obama. The apologies and denial was only towards the very left elements of the US in an attempt to get them to , but that is not what the average person experienced/noticed. I heard that shit so many times from colleagues with never even a concept that he was terrible personally or politically.

It was possibly willful ignorance (likely, I think), but most people thought the “creepy” stuff was just him getting caught on camera at weird moments, blown up by MAGA’s, etc.

I heard people wanting him to run in 2016 even. They’re not good people, but they said it lol

He was vice-president? And through that at least a known name attached to Obama. I knew a bunch of libs who want dhim as the “funny guy that average people like as a weird uncle”.

Ok yeah just a total incapability to understand the position we have relative to this considering where you placed this comment. Maybe you’re one of those “the debate is a sham and there’s a deep state” kinda people, idk. Or maybe you’re a lib thinking that Bidens performance doesn’t matter because he’s still effective regardless? Those are all just muddled ideologies. Join us, learn to have a concrete analysis

Who are you taking about? Americans in general or the people on hexbear talking about it? If it’s the latter, you have wildly misinterpreted our intentions lol

and the instinct to swim away from unpleasantness.

As a child I asked how a pregnant person could pee with the baby in the way, and if the baby gets wet when she pees. I was 9 but I do still cringe when I think about it, despite the fact that very few of my classmates really knew the answer either. I don’t think that anymore though, I have learned that the baby nimbly avoids the pee because it tastes bad

But were talking now about an exception to the first strike policy? As in, Russia will assume the first strike is happening when an F-16 comes to attack and retaliate. My comment is just about whose blind interests are aligned with any sort of nuclear fallout (anywhere in the world). And that Russia (ruling class) is more likely to accept a world where the US is just fallout than the other way (US ruling class wants Russian sources, not non-existence).

I agree with that other comrade, if we look at this from a materialist perspective, almost none of the power structures actually would benefit at all from such actions. It’s gonna be real hard to exploit a nuclear bombed area in any timeframe which the current western powers work with. Russia would be more likely than the US to do so, because they have little to gain from the west’s existence/non-existence because of current sanctions and no ambitions to take over western lands. But I think that Putin and the Russian government understand that the west would not easily pull the trigger and so will actually not assume that all f-16s are nuclear armed. Just act as so until the last moment.

But again, nobody should call that bluff, it’s dumb as shit and only prolonging suffering to help imperialism of the west.

I would personally guess it’s a bluff, but maybe I’m just hopeful. A bluff that shouldn’t be called, of course, but only shooting down the planes (and expending all force to do so) is likely

Yeah I’ve experienced that too. The Dutch one is kids chase the car away waving until you turn a corner. I hadn’t seen that (at least not for a normal visit/just having a tea or something) anywhere else. Maybe I’m not experienced enough elsewhere though