https://lemmy.world/comment/3519515

Why do libs always rush to defend abhorrent things with “🤓👆but achtually it’s technically not illegal”.

And in any case, according to the unanimous vote (sans US and Israel ofc) in the UN every year, the blockade is illegal and a violation of the UN Charter.

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It’s funny because what they say the US isn’t doing is exactly what the US is doing.

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when you learn geopolitics by playing paradox games

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“America can trade with whoever they want”

IT LITERALLY STOPS COUNTRIES THAT TRADED WITH CUBA FROM TRADING WITH THE USA. IF YOU DOCK A SHIP IN CUBA, THAT SHIP CAN’T BE DOCKED IN THE USA FOR ANOTHER 13 (?) MONTHS, SINCE AMERICA IS THE ECONOMIC CENTER OF GRAVITY OF THE ENTIRE WESTERN HEMISPHERE, THIS EFFECTIVELY BLOCKS CUBA FROM GETTING THINGS IT NEEDS LIKE MEDICAL EQUIPMENTS, WHILE BASICALLY THREATENING TO SABOTAGE THE ECONOMY OF ANYONE WHO TRADES WITH CUBA!!! IT’S NOT JUST AMERICA “NOT WANTING TO TRADE WITH CUBA” AS A “PROTEST” TO CUBA’S “AUTHORITARIANISM”. THE EMBARGO HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 60 YEARS AND WAS BASICALLY AMERICA TAKING REVENGE ON CUBA FOR NATIONALIZING ITS SUGAR INDUSTRIES AND REFUSING TO BE A CASINO FOR THE AMERICAN MAFIA. WHERE ARE THESE “LEGALIST” ARGUMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE AMERICAN TORTURE DUNGEONS IN GUANTANAMO BAY, WHICH IS CUBAN SOVEREIGN TERRITORY AND WHICH CUBA HAS REJECTED OUTRIGHT FOR DECADES???

THE UN HAS VOTED TO END THE EMBARGO FOR 30 YEARS STRAIGHT BUT AMERICA DOESN’T CARE:

THE ONLY COUNTRY THAT SIDES WITH AMERIKKKA ON THIS IS ISNTRAEL AND (KINDA SORTA) UKKKRAINE

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Thanks comrade for your measured and appropriate response.

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YOU’RE WELCOME

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I can’t understand Ukraine’s position on this. This was their position prior to the invasion too. It must be America simping. Most other European countries, including those that were invaded by Russia and have beef with Russia, support Cuba despite its automatic siding with Russia on every issue.

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This was their position prior to the invasion too.

Ukraine got couped in 2004 first. And that’s on top of the already nationalist government from 1991. Shit politics there absolutely did not start with the current war

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2014*

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lol, even the biggest US simps in Europe like Germany, Finland and TERF Island voted to end the embargo though.

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Legalism is the worst argument as it ignores so many factors at play, like wow. The biggest economy in the Americas is abusing their power dynamics to strangle a smaller nation at its doorstep, just because it had the gall to defy them.

And yet China is considered the worse and more evil to these people, despite not acting as bad as the US on its breakaway state on its doorstep.

If China did something like an embargo they would be yelling murder and crying crocodile tears.

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China is evil because they didn’t get a septugenarian from Kansas to say that it’s legal for them to give money aid to African countries without demanding blood sacrifice.

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And also I don’t think the embargo is America’s worst modern crime against Cuba. Their worst crime is desecrating the pure soil of Cuba with a McDonald’s (in the illegally occupied territory/torture camp of Guantanamo Bay)

Though in good news I’m hoping to visit Cuba next summer. Any advice on visiting?

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Stay in casa particulars (no hotels or resorts). Take a lot of euros or dollars with you. You can exchange the for pesos on the street for a much higher rate than at the bank. Save some of those euros/dollars for long taxi rides. Absolutely use express VPN if you intend to book buses using their viazul website. You won’t be able to pay for your bus otherwise. First thing you do when you get there is try to acquire a sim card. I would advise doing it officially and not picking one up of a street vendor as 50% of the time you’ll find the SIM gets cancelled.

Visit baracoa, viñales, Santa Clara, Santiago de Cuba, Trinidad, and Havana (both old Havana and the suburbs).

Drink a canchanchera. Go to all the local music halls you can. Drink a michelada. Smoke their cigarettes (Jesus they are good). Eat the seafood in baracoa. Dance. Try not to get too caught up in tourist traps. Talk to locals (learn more Spanish than I did). Have fun.

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Thanks! I don’t get very much time off unfortunately so I will only spend a week, so probably just Havana and surrounding areas. Perhaps a train or bus ride to Santa Clara is possible. But it would be an entire days travel to the east end of the island.

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and sometimes they’re not careful to pass those laws first, and blatantly disregard their own laws and treaties, but it’s still the “RULES based international order” which technically is accurate because the biggest guy makes the rules. So nothing to see here!

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“Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun”

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