Greetings gamers and those who wisely abstain,

It has become clear to us that even in the short while we’ve federated, the situation with sh.itholefor.nazis is entirely untenable and we will be defederating immediately. Multiple instances of ableist and homophobic slurs directed at our users, overwhelming litigiousness against even the most innocuous comments by our users, and just a general ethos of reactionary behavior. We’re done and out.

One of the concerns with embracing TC69 thought on site bans with federation is that the user would basically be just hexbear-side hidden and blocked from our comms, free to post reactionary content without the fear of Lenin behind them. That was a silly concern. We will resume our pre-federation policies regarding site bans.

:07:

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Mmmm interesting Canadian instances are dropping like flies.

If only someone could have warned us.

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His son fucking sucks.

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@WhyEssEff@hexbear.net do you know where the salute you use all the time and this emoji came from ? Is there more?

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I want to re-iterate that during lemmy.ca’s discussion of defederation towards hexbear two of the most influential voices were that of an active US soldier (who slandered hexbear) and that of a cop/narc/jailer for the Canadian state. Something that was completely ignored outside of hexbear.

There weren’t many active voices (comments) to begin with in that discussions and yet those two got plenty of points.

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two of the most influential voices were that of an active US soldier (who slandered hexbear) and that of a cop/narc/jailer for the Canadian state.

who, and how do we know that about those people?

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They also had a guy use nazi dogwhistles be the second highest comment.

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I’m sadly not surprised. The level of political, economic, and historical education up here is abysmal.

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We love our beautiful mods dont we folks

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Many people are saying it!

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im a little sad there are legitimately some good posters on programmg.dev (no it does not make up for the chuds), hope they find their way onto hexbear/LG or some other good instance like lemmy.ml

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Yea programming.dev hasn’t been that bad since I assume any reactionaries learned to shut up

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Glad you kept lemm.ee they might be libs, but some, I assume, are good people

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Maybe I missed it but what did .Dev do? They seemed like run of the mill techbro^tm

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They can gorge themselves on my shit

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You did good work in that thread

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Ty!

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😠

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I’m going to out myself as someone who thought that the funny dunks would be funny and cool, but hearing the concerns of other users here about abusive behavior I’m doing a self crit and saying that I was wrong.

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Self crit is actually ruzzian disinformation and a whataboutism. Sorry, I don’t make the rules(-based international order).

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whatsamaddaism 🤌

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ok sorry i didn’t know

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I understand. Do three Hail Clintons and all your sins will be forgiven when Her Blessed Turn finally arrives.

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I was ambivalent about it “How bad can one more instance of chuds be?” but it’s definitely upped the anxiety I used to get from :reddit-logo: of constantly arguing with people.

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The main difference is that this was probably the most reactionary instance we had federated thus far.

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It gave programming.dev a run for its money.

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This is an important point. Thanks for commenting that comrade.

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The difference was probably that this instances mods were also transphobbic bigoted debatelords

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NGL, the mod log has been rough lately.

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federating the modlogs and its consequences

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It’s the fundamental tension between being a safe space and an offensive space.

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I was honestly the same

god those people were like twitter chuds

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Me too. I have been maybe too conciliatory and forgiving of the stuff these reddit-brained users from other instances can do and say.

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When I first joined Lemmy, I started on their server. I warned them about becoming the Nazi bar, and left. My hope was that we could bring over any remaining cool people and leave all the chuds behind, but it seems that it has already become nothing but a wasteland of chuds. What a shame.

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Me too - pretty quickly got the nazi bar vibe and moved to a different server.

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Weirdly enough, this is how I felt in the very early days of Voat. We all remember it now as the nazi-infested shithole it fast became. But very early on in its first big wave of ex-redditors, it gained a sizable group of leftists and the kinds of people I like to think of as “left-curious liberals”.

When it became clear that the admins/mods cared more about growing userbase size than clamping down on fascists, transphobes, body-shamers, and other assholes, we in that left and left-adjacent userbase went away because we knew there was no future there.

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Reaffirming the nazi bar theory for the 10000th time.

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They won’t forget us, and all the talk they’ll probably be doing for months about us will be free advertising for the curious and marginalized.

To any refugees from that place who are here in good faith, welcome aboard

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the talk they’ll probably be doing for months about us will be free advertising for the curious and marginalized.

As it was then, so it is now

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And As It Is Such, So Also As Such Is It Unto You

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