The international community strikes again.

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Maybe I’m missing something but how does this legitimise the claim that China has over Taiwan? Surely you could use the same line of reasoning with Israel right? Genuinely curious btw as I’ve only ever dipped my toe into the history of this stuff. I feel like I’d like to look at any data gathered about how people living in Taiwan feel about this.

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One big thing to keep in mind though is that the DPP, the people who want to declare independence and claim that Taiwan isn’t China, are all simps for Japanese colonialism.

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Thank you so much that offers some great jump off points for some reading. I’m definitely too uniformed to have an opinion here lol.

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Mostly correct but you got mixed up toward the end. The KMT, the old nationalist party, is actually the moderate and reasonable party now that wants a status quo to continue (One China policy but autonomy) and want to increase business relations with the mainland. The new Liberal party don’t want to just “move forward” they want to become a US military base and declare independence. They are western stooges and imperialists. The KMT is ironically the better option

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they had a big barney

That’s one way of putting it, lmao

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I think led by the lead singer of the Taiwanese melo death metal band Cthonic who is a sitting MP or something lmao

That asshole will be shot first, put him on top of the purge list!

I hate melodic death metal.

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Just to add on to this, I believe Taiwan wasnt really a part of China until it was conquered by the Qing dynasty in the late 17th century.

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A closer (but imperfect) analogy would be if during the US Civil War, The South retained Florida because The British intervened and prevented a reunifucation of the country, and neither side ever conceded, and there are still people alive that remember all of this happening.

And now The British are demanding international legitimacy for The Confederacy even though it’s a red line for the North and most people in Florida don’t even want it, but The British gain from it.

And to point out a major issue with the Israel analogy: Israel is a settler-colonial project of The West whereas Formosa was previously Chinese / indigenous, then colonized by the Japanese, and finally conquered by the imperialist-backed nationalists. This is closer to liberation than a colonial claim.

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you miss something , simple check out what the “excat” name of the Goverment currently (temporarly Embaressed) Presiding ON the ISLAND of Taiwan /Formosa is.

you dont even need to check that out i helped you

Both Sides Claim All of china its the most extremly logical thing a GOVERMENT OF CHINA can do. Its btw not your fault that you dont know shit about Taiwan , but have a vague feeling of Indignation on its behalf this is your Media working as Intented in its “SOFTPOWER” Capacity Media is Softpower , the ability to make you hate what is not your enemy…

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I’m really sorry I’m not quite following what you’re saying. Taiwan are claiming all of China?

I think the question is surely should or does Taiwan want independence rather than pointing to the top of a Wikipedia page right?

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They really want to do the whole “inhuman orcs” thing for China, so they’re looking at Taiwan and wishfully hoping for a Russia/Ukraine style invasion even though the conditions are completely different.

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They really want to do the whole “inhuman orcs” thing for China

Despite their thin veneer of “hate the government, not the people” they already are. That’s why we’re seeing a spike in anti-Asian violence across the West. If the armed reunification of Taiwan is really necessary, Joseph Wu will do his best shocked Pikachu face as he’s put into an internment camp even though he was such a good cheerleader for war.

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They’re doing the same thing to Russians. Remember the insane western crackdown on anything Russia-related, including Russian culture?

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Yeah, I remember a Tchaikovsky concert being literally and figurative canceled.

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Let China join united nations? its already in the UN smh.

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Starting to wonder if the ruling class wants a nuke dropped on their heads

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if you asked them they’d say no, but they also view any loss of relative class position as an equivalent annihilation

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Translation: ACCELERATE! ACCELERATE! ANNIHILATORY IMPERIAL VIOLENCE IS THE ONLY WAY OUT OF NEOLIBERAL DEBT SERFDOM. WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW MORE?

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