For saying Biden doesn’t represent any of my interests lol (we work in a job where politics are relevant and he asked me about it)
Anyway Upbear this post to transcend reality and digitalize your consciousness into a Russian bot
liberals would dehumanize someone before they accepted basic criticism
Me to my coworker: “you know how our job has us work just under full time so we don’t get benefits? That sucks bc we need healthcare”
Him: “well your guy already lost and YOU (implying that I am middle eastern) aren’t just going to not vote Biden OBVIOUSLY”
Me: “I still need healthcare tho”
‘Illegal immigrants coming here to vote’ -conspiracy theory, but instead it’s Russian androids and they come here to not vote.
I literally am an immigrant but I’m like a full citizen definitely NOT a Russian bot.
But George Soros if you’re reading this, 1K is 1K
Do liberals not realize that “bot” implies an algorithm is the one tweeting the anti-Dem agitprop? At least calling you a “Russian shill” or accusing you of having fallen for Russian propaganda would actually make sense.
implies
expecting them to understand implied things is not a good move i feel
Am I incorrect to approach this from an angle of assuming most libs are intelligent enough to believe this bullshit because of information asymmetry (from watching Maddow go nuts over Trump, Russia, etc.), and an ideological model of the world which compels them to both a) discount the credibility of left-wing sources and media while uncritically absorbing western state media talking points and b) MSM and to resolve apparent contradictions with reformist (FDR- or Warren-esque) politics?
Most college-educated libs (except maybe some of the STEMlords) have at least some of the tools available to unlearn all the bullshit. They understand that systemic racism, sexism, homophobia exist, even if they think the “X faces in high places” tokenist approach is a major step forward. They at least understand that oligopoly and rent-seeking are a problem, even if they think capitalism is reformable. They understand that the 2003 Iraq invasion was at least initially a horrible idea, even if they fail to grasp the extent to which the US empire wraps its tentacles across the globe. They know climate change is a deadly-serious problem that calls for radical solutions, even if they don’t know what those solutions would look like.
Their biggest problem is overcoming the hurdle of re-evaluating 20th-century socialism, which their history and economics education taught them was a complete failure (rather than only mostly a failure) and guaranteed to yield mostly poverty, death, and suffering - they don’t understand that this was a result of capitalists laying siege to socialist states for literal decades, they’re so gaslit by the Cold War agitprop and red-baiting that they fail to recognize the race to the bottom and threat of capital flight as a global hostage situation and think that markets are the natural (or even optimal!) state of an industrial world, something impossible to challenge without everything turning to shit.
These people might even prefer the Pareto improvements (or at least Kaldor-Hicks improvements) socialism promises for the working class - if only it actually worked! But they’ve seen satellite photos of the Korean peninsula, or at least heard about studies comparing the economic development between East and West Germany, failing to notice that West Germany and South Korea were imperial Potemkin villages developed precisely to mislead western liberals into believing the implications of these “apples-to-apples” comparisons. They’re insufficiently media-literate to recognize the bad-faith human rights concern trolling from western MSM against Cuba, Venezuela, PRC, etc. for what it is, while still correctly opposing the western human rights violations they know about (e.g. the torture in Guantanamo, the post-9/11 mass surveillance, and the shit happening in ICE/CBP camps). This is a group of people who’ve been convinced that they have no choice but to throw someone vulnerable under the bus every election in the name of harm reduction - it’s a mindset open to arguments for regime change on a humanitarian basis (the US did go to war with Hitler, after all), and resignation to Malthusian policies that disproportionately screw over the poor and POC.
This collective gaslighting is the barrier we have to shatter with our own agitprop. We have to call out the MSM’s scapegoating and divide-and-conquer bullshit whenever we see it. We have to convince these people that a better world is even possible, let alone worth fighting for! We have the antidotes for most of these brainworms now, I know we can reach some of these people.
Their biggest problem is overcoming the hurdle of re-evaluating 20th-century socialism, which their history and economics education taught them was a complete failure (rather than only mostly a failure) and guaranteed to yield mostly poverty, death, and suffering
let me guess, this was your path to socialism too? It certainly was mine. I remember being like 16 and when I looked up political ideologies it all said socialism was what I was closest to, but obviously that was wrong cus who wants to replicate Stalinist russia? The breaking point finally came from wikipedia of all places, when reading the historical account of what actually happened during the many soviet revolutions. It lays it all out pretty well. When you understand that, and actually understand what sanctions are, it’s hard not to put two and two together and realize that the entire communist world was basically under economic warfare the moment they emerged as a government in Russia. Of fucking course their economy sucked, they were limited to what little they could get on their own for the most part. Socialism wasn’t a failed concept, it was nearly defeated by the elites. But there is nothing stronger than an idea who’s time has come, and the elites are getting scared as fuck for a damn good reason. They understand the underlying economic elements that most regular people consider “marxist” and therefor offlimits like it’s some forbidden knowledge or some shit. They see the class consciousness that the internet is creating, despite it’s flaws it’s changed how humanity interacts with itself. They realize what’s coming and some are trying to oppose it, futially I think.
like i am goofing and no you are not incorrect i just think there are some them who are really just in DEEP ON THE PROPAGANDA like to call someone who you can see a russian a person you know to be a real person like either means the person don’t understand the implied part or what they think it is implied is that you are not a person who can makes choices you are a subject of russia
Should have just hit him with the ole Что ебать ты просто чертовски говорила обо мне, маленькая сука? Я тебе зкажу, я закончил вершину моего класса в ВДВ, и я принимал участие в многочисленных секретных рейдов на Аль-Каидой, и у меня есть более 300 подтвержденных убийств. Я тренировался в парижском войны, и я сверху снайпер в целых российских вооруженных сил. Вы ничто для меня, но только другая цель. Я протрите тебе нахрен с точностью, подобных которым никогда не видели раньше на этой Земле, запомните мои чертовы слова. Вы думаете, что вы можете уйти с того, что дерьмо для меня через Интернет? Подумайте еще раз, ублюдок. Как мы говорим Я контактирую мой секретный сеть шпионов по всей России, и ваш IP-трассируется прямо сейчас, так что вам лучше подготовиться к шторму, козу. Шторм, который стирает жалкий небольшое вещь ты называеш твоя жизнь. Ты находишься чертовски мертвых, малыш. Я могу быть где угодно, в любое время, и я могу убить тебя в более семисот способами, и это только голыми руками. Я не только обучен приемам рукопашного боя, но у меня есть доступ ко всей арсенале Воздушно-десантные войска, и я буду использовать его в полной мере, чтобы вытереть задницу жалкий с лица континента, небольшое дерьма. Если бы только ты мог знать, что нечестивый возмездие ваш маленький “умный” комментарий был готов обрушить тебе, может быть, ты бы провели свой гребаный язык. Но ты не мог, ты не сделал, и теперь ты платишь цену, ты идиот проклятый. Я дерьмо ярость все над тобойи ты тонуть в нем. Ты находишься чертовски мертв, детка.
Just for fun, I tossed this back into google translate to see how it would handle it.
What the fuck are you just fucking saying about me, little bitch? I’ll tell you, I finished the top of my class in the Airborne Forces, and I have taken part in numerous secret raids on Al Qaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I trained in the Paris war and I am the top sniper in the entire Russian armed forces. You are nothing to me, but only a different goal. I wipe you the fuck with precision like never seen before on this earth, mark my fucking words. Do you think you can get away with that shit for me over the internet? Think again, bastard. As we speak, I contact my secret spy network all over Russia, and your IP is being traced right now, so you better prepare for the storm, goat. A storm that erases the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, at any time, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that is only with my bare hands. Not only am I trained in hand-to-hand combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Airborne Forces, and I will use it to the fullest to wipe that pathetic ass off the face of the continent, little crap. If only you could know what unholy retribution your little “smart” comment was about to bring down on you, maybe you would run your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you pay the price, you damn idiot. I shit the rage is all over you and you drown in it. You’re fucking dead, baby.
I kind of love it.
I’ve been called a Putin supporter today for calling out Western propaganda against the DPRK. But being called a bot in person is something else. JFC, what’s wrong with people?
I like how they can’t even rationalize more than one bad guy. You would think the first thing you would be accused of for shilling for the DPRK is being a DPRK shill because they think just that by itself is reprehensible, but no. DPRK = bad, all things bad lead to Putin, you support Putin. Obv.
