Auto industry insiders were stunned when Caresoft, a highly regarded engineering consulting firm, tore down BYD’s mass-market EV, the Seagull.

Priced around $11,000, the engineers found the Seagull to be well-designed, user friendly, rich with options, and of surprisingly high quality and reliability.

The US automakers reacted swiftly, and produced reports insisting that BYD’s entrance into US car markets would be met with strong enthusiasm from buyers, and legacy carmakers would be unable to survive.

Because of the Seagull’s low price point, US tariffs of 25% would be irrelevant: BYD could still make high profits even after the tariffs were paid. Or, BYD could simply place final assembly plants in Mexico and avoid them altogether. Aware of this, the Biden Administration in May jacked the tariffs up to 100%, and announced that Chinese car plants even in tariff treaty countries would be cut off from US markets.

I can’t understate how much it pisses me off that we can’t have affordable cars because it’s not what’s most profitable for the rich.

permalink
report
reply
16 points

What if instead we had luxury EVs poorly manufactured by a eugenicist paedophile who uses the stock price to fund the largest Nazi platform online?

permalink
report
parent
reply
40 points

The invisible hand of the free market working wonders once again.

permalink
report
reply
31 points

death to america

permalink
report
reply

legacy carmakers would be unable to survive.

Free market’s a bitch lol

permalink
report
reply

I’d never drive this dogshit of a car just because it follows the “touch screen everything” trend, but I still want it to succeed just because it would make yakubian devils and their supporters seethe then proceed to do nothing to compete

I’ll stick to 2012 and under Toyotas and Hondas, unless less annoying Chinese EVs enter the American market.

permalink
report
reply
18 points

because it follows the “touch screen everything” trend

It’s a cost-saving measure. A giant iPad is cheaper than a thoughtfully designed center console with buttons of different shapes and sizes. It makes sense to do something like this when you’re trying to make the bare minimum car.

permalink
report
parent
reply
13 points

I’d be curious to see how much it actually saves. The plastic buttons and switches aren’t going to cost a lot themselves, and the wiring will be mostly identical (unless you’re doing something stupid like Tesla’s running everything in series).

permalink
report
parent
reply
20 points
*

The plastic buttons and switches aren’t going to cost a lot themselves

No, but they still cost more. When you’re selling cars at a massive scale, marginal gains add up. It’s why Ford killed people with the Pinto’s explosive gas tank to save $11 per car. It’s why Tesla doesn’t include a gauge cluster, turn signal stalk, or gear selector in the Model 3. It’s why new cars seem to never include spare tires anymore. Marginal gains at a massive scale are massive gains.

permalink
report
parent
reply

A tremendous amount. The oems that make the stick up panel or flush panel head units are built out to move very quickly from design to prototype to finished product because there’s no back and forth.

The manufacturer of the car says “hey I got a space this size, what can you give me” and the head unit oem says “a buttonless touchscreen unit of size x or a button having touchscreen unit of size y, what’s your address I’ll overnight you two demo models”.

There’s no back and forth about design language or control feel, materials versus cost, none of that shit.

permalink
report
parent
reply

I don’t love that about it but it’s an affordable electric car that can be run for almost nothing and will have less maintenance costs than an ICE.

Choosing to drive an ICE car over this would amount to thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars per year extra operating costs for the privilege of some plastic buttons which I simply could never justify if I had the opportunity to buy one of these.

permalink
report
parent
reply
11 points

The big console would be annoying, especially if core features depend on it instead of it just being a GPS/spotify window like mine. I wish it had more cargo capacity too. It’s 2/3rds~ the space of a Honda Fit which is my ideal hatchback. For the price and fuel cost savings I’d bite the bullet, but I want a more utilitarian model like the BYD Dolphin.

permalink
report
parent
reply

cars

!cars@hexbear.net

Create post

===============/c/cars================

Hexbear’s premier community for the discussion of and questions about cars, motorcycles, and other low occupancy transit. Share your thoughts, discuss cars under communism, and ask questions about maintenance.

Anti-car posting is not permited. Train good car bad and all, but it’s not what this comm is for.

Community stats

  • 364

    Monthly active users

  • 415

    Posts

  • 2.3K

    Comments