Liberals said the exact same shit during the civil rights movement i.e. MLK was a Russian asset and being controlled by the CCCP etc.
Hell, they killed Bobby Seale Huey, (never history before morning coffee) because he actually met the Chinese comrades of his time; and they couldn’t have a Black leader bringing communism to the hood
EDIT now that I’ve got a cup of ACTUAL coffee in me and not some watered down, burnt, gas station turpentine, lemme get more into this because I’ve got a pet theory. The Panthers meeting our Chinese comrades is the entire reason why COINTELPRO has only continued, intensified, and evolved in the decades since-- because it all boils down to ‘they can’t have anyone bringing communism to the hood’.
Back in the day, they had the shit locked down. The internet wasn’t like that yet; we couldn’t have whole-ass discussions, debates, arguments, and flame wars over theory or sects. The knowledge base wasn’t out there yet, you had to be into some scholarly shit in the first place, or know somebody who jumped you in, to even be talking like we are now. The genie’s out of the bottle now; and they CANNOT AFFORD another movement as large as or as motivated as the Panthers were. They can’t have another community-based, community-focused mutual aid network like that again, because these theories are the next step.
This is why they train our misleaders to make the concept of seeking liberation sound corny. This is why the misleaders push “Black Excellence™”, “Black Capitalism”, and all that happy assimilation-reformist bullshit. Part of why the ‘hotep’ discourse is a thing. (I’m not gonna play around and act like some of it isn’t some members of our community actually being corny about it; but I don’t believe that sentiment came from the ground up.) This is why they locked up the Uhuru 3, and made 61 political prisoners under RICO charges in Georgia. This is why they still infiltrate our organizations, lock up our leaders, and kill the ones they know won’t comply. They can’t afford another.
As a black American, I gotta side with fantastic-nonsense (totally inaccurate username BTW ‘cause they spittin’ straight fax) here.
I have been targeted by Russia to act as a disinformation agent against Biden and play a part in him losing the election. It sucks to know that libs like this user are waking up to this truth, and now I gotta deal with that.
I figured their word salad genius take on matters would be too enlightened for you all to understand, so I just thought I’d clear it up here and now with my firsthand experience as a certified black American Russian bot. Thank you.
I still cannot understand the “russian bots sabotaged Hillary’s election” narrative. She won the popular vote by several millions, lost the electoral college by like 10. Did the KGB invent the electoral college? Because it seemed like an ordinary election with the exception of the funny candidates
I genuinely feel like i’ve lost my mind because whenever this topic comes up, no one seems to acknowledge this. Not even people here. Am i missing something? Am I missing the big picture when I point out Hillary literally won and still lost and that tankies or bernie bros or putler bots couldnt’t sway shit? Unless they assume Hillary would’ve won 5 million more votes if the bernie bros didn’t have allegiance to russia and caused her the electoral votes? What am i missing?
It’s more because liberals will use the electoral college to make their point in a way. In their Russia fantasy the disinformation campaign influenced enough swing state voters to turn the electoral vote in favor of Trump.
They’ll even acknowledge that the electoral college is flawed (they’ve been on that spiel ever since the 2000 election), but they won’t ever actually make a push to reform or completely get rid of it because they also wholeheartedly believe American institutions are damn near infallible.
They’ll even acknowledge that the electoral college is flawed (they’ve been on that spiel ever since the 2000 election)
Yeah libs used talk about the EC, now their go to obsession is “first past the poll”/ranked choice. Every vote evangelist is flogging this as a magic bullet to save what they think is democracy
Even a moderate understanding of modern history reveals that people will happily vote in fascism. Or fascists will just ignore the voting altogether and seize power while libs wring their hands. Very big brain stuff
That’s part of it, but also any realistic path to eliminating the EC or rendering it neutral would require the DNC to win over a lot more state governments, and the Dems are deathly allergic to engaging in that sort of long-term strategy. Not to mention having to expand the party beyond their coastal and urban enclaves.
I love the irony in the cognitive dissonance:
“Everyone believes they are immune to propaganda.” - Group of Redditors buying into blatant propaganda.
Yes, it’s Russian propaganda that caused Hillary to lose, and not her unmasked contempt for anyone not completely adherent to neoliberal ideology. The success of the previously unknown Bernie’s campaign should have been a wake up call to at least act like you could play nice with the more progressive folks. Bernie was never going to be the VP pick, but there were a handful of others that would have been at least throwing a bone to that part of the base.
Nope, she picks Tim “Pro Life” fucking Kaine, but it was Russian ops that convince those Michigan voters to pick Stein.
IMO both things are true. Yes she won the popular vote undeniably, however that doesn’t excuse her disastrous campaign, most of the time Trump would not have been even close and the electoral college issue is something they as Adults In The Roomtm should have taken into account when propping up Trump. At this point it is all academic debate anyway, like going back and looking at what they did wrong etc.
The point is yes she won, but it should not have been that close and it wasn’t an upset or unlikely result, it is now understood it was just their incompetence overall.
The same thing is happening right now too, Biden should be far more popular than Trump under almost every scenario except for the fact Dems keep making incredibly dumb decisions, almost as if they don’t want to win…
Russian hackers hacked the results so it flipped to a Trump victory instead.
Serious answer: the DNC was not in a position to admit defeat, for it would mean conceding defeat to the progressive wing led by Bernie Sanders, which was growing stronger by the day back in 2017. Hillary’s loss had to be blamed on something, or someone. Lie through the teeth if they had to, but they cannot risk having their party getting overrun by the progressives. The Russians thus became the scapegoat to this intraparty struggle in the DNC.
I’m not racist, I just think everything is a conspiracy by specifically Asian countries. Doesn’t matter which. Just any country I’d see as having special magical abilities a couple centuries ago.
Russia is a white european country. The only reason they’re allied with China is bc Western capitalist elites are not too racist (relative to avg crackers)–they care more for money than race. Thus, they want Russian oil and other massive Siberia resources, even if it means killing Russians
Russia is a white european country.
Depends on the story the Westoid propaganda wants to tell. Sometimes their white euopean, sometimes their the inscrutable asiatic horde
they’re only considered “Asiatic” when western capitalist elites need to kill them to take their resources
no mayo actually considers a group of basically white christians, with lighter hair than them at that, to be Asian
this of course means that Russia and the West making up doesn’t bring about communism, but instead global race war
Liberals try not to infantilise and dismiss the experiences of minorities challenge: impossible.
