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Obama is too intelligent to not know he’s saying one of most historically plainly inaccurate statements one could utter about America. I am no big city historian and even I know that’s false.

This is truly the of the most liberal thing one can believe. The idea that only “Peaceful Protest™️©️®️” is “legitimate” is one of the most neoliberal political trickeries I can think of in the modern age.

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Obama is intelligent

:blushing-engels: thank

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😚

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Remember when Gandi did a few days of intermittent fasting and the British left?

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the only thing they definitely teach elementary school students about American history is that it was created after a war

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George Washington wrote to the king, George III, “Your Majesty, I shall not pay any more taxes unless you give us representation!”

The king knew he wouldn’t give the colonists any representation, and seceded independence to them. “I must not govern those who do not have a say,” he said. On the 7th day, Washington and George III met in Plymouth and shook hands.

“Mr. Washington, you protested the monarchy, and we hear you, and we see you,” the king said.

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I have a lib family member who tried to claim violence wasn’t justified in the Cuban revolution.

I pointed out that the US was founded in a violent revolution that expropriated the properties of tens of thousands of loyalists after the war and went on to use violence to put down challenges to it’s authority from it’s citizens (e.g. the Whiskey Rebellion).

They didn’t really have a response and kinda nodded along before changing topics.

I think a lot of libs don’t really know their own history. Or maybe it’s the thing where they believe it was justified back then but sometime.in the 1800s it became immoral. Or maybe it’s just exceptionalism

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imo the vast majority just don’t think about it. Americans know what our Revolutionary War was, but they’ve also been spoon fed the platitude that political violence is bad for most of their lives. They’ve never considered that there’s a contradiction there.

I think on a deeper level Americans are also incredibly inept at trying to make something better. Like we know things are bad and they could be better, but the idea of getting off our asses and and physically changing the world (through violence for example) just doesn’t register for a lot of people. For instance, getting people to complain about something and agree it needs to be fixed isn’t that hard. Getting them to come to a meeting to discuss fixing it is like pulling teeth. The idea that thousands or millions of people could be mobilized to do something they care about (like our Revolutionary War) is entirely foreign to most Americans. This also leads to the Great Man theory so many people use as a cudgel against communist projects. The millions of Cuban people couldn’t have possibly joined the revolution - the Castros and Che did all those things and that makes them horrible dictators.

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They didn’t really have a response and kinda nodded along before changing topics.

because having an argument for that would require knowledge and complex thought.

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The white people peacefully protested against the native Americans and they saw they had no choice but to give their land up.

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People in Ghana agreed to go on those ships peacefully when the slave traders marched holding signs with quirky pro-slavery slogans.

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I hate that man so much. He tricked me, and that makes it personal.

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That’s how I feel about American Mythology.

:zinn-protest: :rat-salute-2:

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If it helps, the night he was elected I was outside my dorm smoking a joint and I watched this grown woman start full-on sobbing about how now the terrorists had already won. When she noticed the look on my face she started screaming at me like I was the Starbucks barista who had just messed up her order. I was too high so I just started laughing and she never spoke to me again.

There were so many little moments like that in the beginning of his first term. It was easy to let yourself believe it might go somewhere back before all the Occupy Wall Street stuff had came and went and nothing changed.

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