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Honestly its rude to be invited by a country to meet their president who decided to respond to your criticisms of their administration only to not show up and go meet the opposition.

Being invided and then no showing shows complete disregard to basic diplomatic Etiquette since it was a mission to show solidarity against the embargo

Bonus socdems being cringe part 4.5: about another member that didnt show up to the presidential meeting

Deeply unserious people

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These fucking idiots get the possibility of meeting with and creating an ally for their cause with state resources that has actively used those resources to secretly fund and support foreign causes in the past and they stupidly do this shit?

Absolute fucking idiots. I have no other words. The complete and total failure to see an opportunity presenting itself to these morons is beyond stupidity.

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The complete and total failure to see an opportunity presenting itself to these morons is beyond stupidity.

It’s beyond stupidity alright. No one is this fucking stupid, so the only reasonable conclusion is that they’re ops.

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I genuinely don’t think they actually thought through any of this. They’ve treated it like it’s some school trip where a class gets to meet the prez and say a few words. Not as a real and serious political organisation trying to make ties that will benefit their cause.

Would they behave this way with the UK? With Norway or Sweden? Countries that wouldn’t give them the time of day and wouldn’t support them? Would they offend them with criticisms of how they run their states if given any kind of diplomatic welcome? I somehow think they wouldn’t. They’d treat it like a westerners day out.

They went there to lecture them. Imbeciles. A country that in the past has not been against literally arming their allies in foreign nations. Let alone providing lukewarm resource support.

Just incredible shortsightedness. These are people you should be building trust with to eventually reach the point of collaboration.

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They went there to lecture them.

Exactly. Why did this arrogant westoid think they have any right to share their “critiques” anyway. Extremely patient and kind of Diaz-Canal to even entertain their bullshit and offer them a private meeting to address their critiques. Critiques and reforms of the Cuban project should come from Cubans, not from Americans. Why does she think she has any right to dictate anything to the Cubans whatsoever? She’s so arrogant she thinks she has the solution while Cubans are just too stupid to figure it out? She should have been there to learn, not to lecture.

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Lol no, they’re just idealists.

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No trust me there are people exactly this stupid and they’re the dominant members of the DSA.

The DSA is made up primarily of Sanders Dems and entryist Trots that think they’re very sneaky. There are minorities that are better but these groups are louder and maintain their positions by being exhausting, i.e. fundamentally liberal.

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Trots that think they’re very sneaky.

giggling rn

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The trots and succdems are currently the minority faction on the national political committee?

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Why the fuck are you even going to Cuba as a member of a political party if you skip a meeting with the goddamn president? This should get them expelled, but I suppose that might be too authoritarian.

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To platform your bad ideas.

They’re both from groups that define themselves through anticommunism. They think doing good actions involves attacking countries run by communist parties and parroting the NGO-industrial complex lines. They think they’re so clever.

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How to build bridges, apparently

  1. Go to foreign nation and berate it’s leadership
  2. Skip meeting with it’s president who actually was going to try and address aforementioned comments
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This reminds me of a recent podcast on Rev Left where he interviewed three Pan-Africanists who were part of a delegation in Cuba: https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/on-cuba-and-haiti-the-fight-for-liberation-self-determination-in-the-caribbean

One of them has been to these conferences in Cuba multiple times and would mention how US leftists would constantly bring ideological and sectarian baggage with them and how Cuban communists have to constantly tell them to remove their heads from their asses and stfu (It’s around 13:00 into the podcast).

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Just commenting so I can listen to this tomorrow

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If anyone still wonders why the global south thinks the western “left” is a joke, this is a perfect example.

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