Sorry, I went on :redd
The source of the files claims to have hacked, downloaded and decrypted them from a number of police computer servers in Xinjiang, before passing them to Dr Adrian Zenz, a scholar at the US-based Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation who has previously been sanctioned by the Chinese government for his influential research on Xinjiang.
Dr Zenz then shared them with the BBC, and although we were able to contact the source directly, they were unwilling to reveal anything about their identity or whereabouts.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Dr Adrian Zenz, a scholar at the US-based Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation
find a PMC who doesn’t collaborate with nazi imperialist CIA NGOs, you can’t :amber:
although we were able to contact the source directly, they were unwilling to reveal anything about their identity or whereabouts
It’s just Zenz pretending to have a Chinese accent
Still waiting for documentation of even a single death.
Meanwhile referring to the thousands of documented deaths in the Donbass since 2014 as a genocide is criminalized in Australia.
The civil war in the Donbass has claimed about 14,000 lives. Many/most of those were armed combatants, but some of them were victims of ethnic pogroms.
There is a lot of the same Zenz talking points in here and a focus on images, but I think the interesting parts of the story are the written docs
I have no reason to think that any of the documents are fake, nor any of the photographs. But why would someone send them to Adrian Zenz, someone who does not even read or speak Chinese?
The photographs don’t show anything particularly bad, in my opinion. Sure there are people detained for re-education, lots, even. China has never claimed this was a voluntary school, it was always framed as detention and re-education. Of course there are going to be armed guards. I don’t see any evidence of excessive violence or even or mass incarceration. I see 2,500 detainees.
What does concern me is the presumably authentic reasons for detention, as some of them seem harsher than they need to be. Like 10 years for reading scripture - that actually does seem like something worth reporting on. That may be purposely mistranslated or incorrect, but I think it’s not.
The other piece is the shoot-to-kill order in the documents. I assume that’s either a lie or mistranslated on purpose.
Is there anyone here who can read Chinese interested in looking into any of the written document claims? Or provide context?
Was originally going to write a comment about how they used a variant of the character “将” not used in the mainland and the image for “shoot to kill” in the report is obviously digital text photoshopped to look like a scanned document.
Then I clicked around and found the “original text” they mentioned. It;s just a word document so it was digital to begin with.
The original text is:
5、如学员不听劝告带枪民警可鸣枪示警，若学员不听劝阻继续扩大事态、逃跑或企图抢夺枪支，带枪民警予以击毙。
Which translates to:
5, If student does not listen to the urging of armed police officers, the armed police officer is allowed to fire warning shot. If student does not listen to disuasion and continue to escalate, escape or attempt to take firearms by force, armed police officer should shoot to kill.
Can’t find anything on 10 years for reading scripture. Assuming it is real and I have to guess, scripture here refers to terrorist materials since Islam and the study of Islamic scripture is not restricted in China.
https://twitter.com/Cinqscories/status/1529035481203154945
Heres at least one thread questioning the legitimacy of the documents based on character inconsistency and seemingly faulty formats being used in the document photos.
Like 10 years for reading scripture
The rumbling you hear is every subscriber to r/atheism rushing to file for membership in the Chinese Communist Party
thisuyghurdoesnotexist.com and it’s just ai- generated images of people who never existed in the first place
Damn, that is entirely possible at this point.
The only thing that makes it less likely is the fact that there probably isn’t a large enough database of Uyghur portraits to train a model on, especially in the West.
My isp is giving me a page that says “this webpage does not exist” when I click this link
Disregard am dumb
I’m pretty sure it’s a joke about the this_____doesntexist websites about specific things procedurally generated.
they need a distraction from the pics of bojo at a party during lockdown so they run a nothingburger story about how someone hacked a chinese police database.
