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If it wasn’t collapsing, it wouldn’t be in the red.

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43 points

checkmate tankies

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26 points

the higher they climb the faster they fall! got’em

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58 points

Lol at the UK just making shit up.

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31 points

Making shit up and still getting beaten by the “lazy” French and Italians.

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23 points

UK’s books are in the black again because they ran out of red ink

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10 points

Stocks in left over black ink from all those old inkjet printers found in landfill sites increase GDP by 4pts this year as it’s revealed that adding a bit of water brings then back to liquid.

Turmoil in Britain this week as Nestlé refuses to let the British use water for bathing, choosing instead to sell Britain’s waterways to the highest bidder—second-hand ink manufacturers. The price increase of Nestlé shares raise GDP another 3pts.

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What’s the source for this post?

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19 points

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/NGDP_RPCH@WEO/OEMDC/ADVEC/WEOWORLD

Even the IMF puts China at 4.2 in Q3 (Oct 2023).

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That just continues to show this post is inflated and not really a good source of information.

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44 points

I think when the highest quality most respected China collapse preachers say collapse, they mean entering a Japan style stagnation. I’m not sure, because that would require me to consume a lot of China collapse preacher content, but I think that’s how they can justify the narrative across different levels of seriousness.

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Even that narrative is fundamentally flawed because Japan’s stagnation in the 80s was a direct result of US imposing Plaza Accords on Japan. There is no opportunity for US to do the same with China.

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It makes more sense if you look at it as a declaration of intent

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24 points

true

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If China can manage to turn its industries and markets to an internal production/consumption model and reduce its reliance on being an export economy, it would be much better off even without the massive growth. Growth will have to stop at some point, and the focus will be on stability, since China hasn’t made any indications it’ll try to fuel growth through imperialism like western economies have. Japan style stagnation would be not so terrible if your society is socialist.

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hopefully they would ramp up the social services to at least socdem levels in that scenerio

absolutely shame the west

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Even with the current model of state directed capitalism, the amount of investment into social services and poverty reduction already shame the west. China isn’t yet in a position to press the communism button, but once the threat of America and it’s puppets decline there may well be a pivot.

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33 points

respected China collapse preachers

I assume this is read in the same way as “feminist ISIS member”.

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If you hold that graph up to your ear, you can actually hear the liberals going “yes but actually…”

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I did and they sent me this WSJ article

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17 points

“How will the Free Market work if you don’t assure the largest players that they’ll be able to socialize their losses?! Read BASIC ECONOMICS!”

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Shoot, I don’t have it offhand but you should send the Ben Norton video back, where he talked about how China is letting their property sector fail in order to shift their economy to being focused on green energy and tech.

As well, he mentions how morally corrupt it is to use property as an investment and how shifting where your investments are is actually a better idea.

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12 points

But at what cooooost

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36 points

yeah so many propagandists point to the slow down in economic growth from “socialist god” levels to “economic miracle” levels and are like china is falling apart they are due for a depression any day

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28 points

Gotta have a reason to keep those Gordon Chang books on the shelf.

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