Fun fact: anyone who uses the word “tankie” as a pejorative has nothing of value to add to any conversation; you can just pay them no mind and continue on with your day.
Edited to add: I felt is was important to also note that this rule applies to the word “anarkiddie” because I love my anarcho-communist comrades.
Someone is only a tankie if they’re from the Tankie region of Hungary, anything else is just a sparkling ML. Send tweet.
Broadly tho the tankiest people I’ve spoken too in the group seem happy to accept criticism on the regimes? It just has to be done without calling to American propaganda, that being said I’ve sort of intentionally avoided bringing it up.
Fucking lol. Hard to hold a conversation without using propoganda so I just don’t try.
You tankies are unwilling to accept any criticism of ML regimes!
Actually, although I support them, I do have my reservations such as-
Oh yeah? Then why don’t you accept evidence from CIAcutout.org!?
I know, right? Like we haven’t seen enough struggle sessions on here about ML governments or critical support for anti imperialist nations. It’s almost as if these people don’t like having to do the extra work of reading past the propoganda to find something to honestly be critical of.
Is it just me or is the name “Iron Front” fascist-sounding as fuck
It absolutely is. You know they made it that to appeal to aggro lookin white dudes
it’s an appropriation of the old socdem antifascist-anticommunist org from weimar germany
its where the three arrows come from, one of the arrows is for communists :cringe:
and how’d that go?
On January 30th 1933, the day Hitler was declared chancellor, the communist KPD asked the Iron Front, the social democrat SPD, the general trade union association ADGB and their organisations, and Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold to declare a general strike against Hitler. The Iron Front declined and issued a call on February 2nd to “all comrades of the Reichsbanner and the Iron Front”, warning against participating in “wild actions organised by irresponsible people”, and exhorted members to “turn all Iron Front events into powerful rallies for freedom”.
These idiots actually believe the tanks literally ran over people at Tinyman Square, Uyghur China.
Well, SOMETHING killed all these people. What do you think it was ?
British ambassador to China Sir Alan Donald wrote a secret diplomatic cable around 24 hours after the massacre, which was only declassified in 2017. Some excerpts:
"The 27 Army APCs (armored personnel carriers) opened fire on the crowd before running over them. APCs ran over troops and civilians at 65kph (40 miles per hour). Students understood they were given one hour to leave square, but after five minutes APCs attacked.
Students linked arms but were mown down. APCs then ran over the bodies time and time again to make, quote ‘pie’ unquote, and remains collected by bulldozer. Remains incinerated and then hosed down drains.
27 Army ordered to spare no one. Wounded girl students begged for their lives but were bayoneted. A three-year-old girl was injured, but her mother was shot as she went to her aid, as were six others.
1,000 survivors were told they could escape but were then mown down by specially prepared MG (machine gun) positions. Army ambulances who attempted to give aid were shot up, as was a Sino-Japanese hospital ambulance.
Minimum estimate of civilian dead 10,000"
The first picture is mostly bikes and the few people lying on the ground are still clearly alive as you can see them lifting their heads to see whats going on. I can’t spot any dead people in the second pic either. Also lol at believing a ‘British ambassador’
BODIES AND WOUNDED, HOWEVER, BEGAN TO ARRIVE AT THE RED CROSS STATION INDICATING THE EXTENT OF THE FIGHTING AND THE FACT THAT REAL BULLETS WERE BEING USED. AS THE MILITARY BEGAN TO REACH THE OUTSKIRTS OF THE SQUARE AND SHOTS WERE FIRED IN THE VICINITY OF THE RED CROSS STATION, MRS. GALLO DECIDED SHE WANTED TO LEAVE.
Plenty of Western and international sources claim that nothing happened in Tianamen Square that night.
Those sources do often claim that violence did occur elsewhere and I honestly wouldn’t put it past any military or police group to use violence if they can get away with it but it’s certainly not as set in stone as you might think.
It’s also important to note that governments can often be so segmented in control that soldiers firing on a group won’t always be representative of command. For all the deaths and murders that are accountable to the US government in the Middle East, there’s also no doubt plenty of murders that were done by more rogue soldiers and squads all promising each other not to tell the higher ups.
So we would want internal documents and communications between higher-ups of the military and the Chinese government at the time to determine intents.
There’s certainly a lot of evidence suggesting that there was some pretty violent military action going down, but the details aren’t really set in stone at all.
Makes sense. So - here’s a question for you… are all cops bastards even when they’re communist cops?
The people in that pic seem pretty clearly alive. Some abandoned bikes and a few folks wearing white shirts taking cover with no signs of blood.
edit: take the L my guy. As an american I find it hard to care about this when my government nakedly does much worse than this on the regular, with malicious intent
I can’t verify if this tweet is legitimate or not
Every western piece on China has some variation of this sentence
