:AyyyyyOC: “i want the socialism of britain and scandinavia”
I’m Danish and I can thoroughly debunk this.
Yes, they don’t want too many “non-westerners” to live in the same place but they also don’t want too many unemployed or people on disability there either. And it only affects social housing, good decent people who own their own homes are safe.
So you see, it can’t be racist because they also hate the poor.
so I found a Guardian article on this (I know, I know, they’re TERFs). and this is so fucking bad, worse than you realise.
they’re " reducing the number of “non-western” residents, scrapping the controversial term “ghetto” in its proposed legislation"… they literally originally called PoC areas in the first draft ghettos. fucking racist anti immigrant rhetoric, but it gets worse.
" a review of existing legislation on combatting “parallel societies” " literally 5th column fascist shit. this is 100% the actual direct reason nazis used against Jews. this idea of the internal enemy who will betray the nation and must be stopped and forcibly integrated or… you know what
Hey Europe, how are you doing?
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More seriously, as other people have pointed out, we’re only seeing a few million refugees that are resulting in Europe and American going outright ultranationalist. What’s going to happen in a few decades when we see tens of millions fleeing?
I’ve been beating that drum for a long time, since 2014. what are we going to see as more and more Indian harvests fail due to soil erosion, erratic weather, and ethnic violence. what about when North Africa and the Middle east get too hot to live in, we already saw Iraq hit 54c a couple years ago. what about when the water wars start and the violence forces people to flee. there are going to be so many refugees. and then when the pandemics come from melting permafrost that was keeping bacteria frozen in there dormant, or we get more mutations of things like covid, giving the fash carte Blanche reason to ‘keep us safe’ by stopping the refugees. things are going to get fucking ugly. and that’s when this whole shit about the 5th column boils over and the genocide starts, the seeds are being laid right now in policy that dehumanises and otherises refugees
Yeaaaahhhhh…I feel it could go 1 of 2 ways, essentially:
Either the ensuing chaos over the next few decades, as the contradictions in capitalism become more clear, result in western society having a seismic shift leftward in favor of human rights/worker rights/etc, we do all we can to combat climate change and aid countries suffering the worst effects while taking in their people as needed
or
We militarize further, double down on the dehumanization of minorities/foreigners, and ramp up efforts to destabilize stable leftist powers which pose a threat to the capitalist paradigm, while also attempting to supplant leaders in countries suffering most severely from those crises in order to get them to force their people to stay (and/or kill them).
I’m not gonna say which I think is more likely.
I’m very pessimistic about this development. There is no more welfare to distribute so the driving force of most European politics becomes “cultural” issues of which an ever accelerating racism is the dominant.
Europe hasn’t done it’s last genocide yet.
:cringe: I used to be a nordic socialism guy when I first got into leftism
This would almost make sense as part of an anti-segregation campaign, to prevent immigrants from being corralled into lower income neighborhoods that can then be ignored like what happens in most Western nations
Buuuuuuuut it turns out it’s forcibly relocating immigrants to other parts of the country so that they can’t accrue any economic or political power. Cool.
You don’t fix the “lower income” part of lower income neighborhoods by demolishing the buildings and forcibly relocating the people to more expensive housing. You are just rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic and even making things worse by increasing poverty-stricken peoples housing and transportation expenses.
My personal approach would be to either build affordable housing in majority white neighborhoods or force the sale of homes at below market prices to immigrant families. And it would be more like zip code to zip code, not city to city, so that people aren’t isolated from each other, just more evenly distributed demographically.
In lots of cities you have these hard lines that delineate good and bad neighborhoods. Instead of one white neighborhood in one non-white neighborhood right next to each other, it should be two mixed neighborhoods with no real border between them.
At least they all access the same hospitals and schools, right? Like I imagine shitheads going “OMG leftist akchually want to segregate brown people”
Denmark is a little country with short distances so everyone goes to the same hospitals. School districts are small enough to have noticeable social differences but they are small compared to what you see in other places in the world.
However going to the same place doesn’t mean you’re treated the same. In the same public school you find kids who comes from families that can afford to spend thousands of dollars on a school trip to New York and kids who comes from families that can’t. In the same retirement home you find seniors who can afford to pay for extra cleaning and personal hygiene, and you find seniors who can’t.
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism
