Not gonna pretend that the unhoused in this situation are being helped or anything, but it goes to show that the US government is capable of improving things for its people but choses not to.
Also, remember when Beijing hosted the Olympics and Westoids accused China of hiding all the beggars? Lmao.
It’ll be so funny to be Xi and have knowledge of the homeless problem in San Francisco and constantly bringing up questions like
- oh did you put them into housing or state run dormitories?
- i was led to believe you actually didnt care about your population.
- so can we visit these housing facilities you’ve moved your homeless population into?
- surely you havent pushed them out further into the street by destroying their encampments
- what’s under this suspicious looking table cloth? May I take a look underneath?
Every accusation is a confession holy shit lol
President Xi please, my people yearn for freedom!
But when other countries outside of do it, it gets coverage to really hammer home how disingenuous their dictators are and how their country really is just terrible, those poor 3rd worlders having to live like this, if only they could become smart and have a liberal democracy and join our rules based international-order.
I don’t mention it much because of that, but when I went to China there were a bunch of people living in caves who were walking down (~0.5miles) to a river to get water. There is still a gap between policy and achievements, it’s just not useful mentioning it in most places. But I wonder sometimes how much of the attitude about China being utopian is a bit and how much is true belief.
In general I have developed a huge amount of uncertainty in regards to foreign affairs/conditions because you both can’t really trust that news isn’t carrying foreign policy and devoid of a lot of deep cultural & historic context I am not sure you can develop reasonable interpretations even if the news is true.
Hopefully no one here thinks it’s utopia. They have generally better policies economically than the US but there’s still a ton to do on all aspects, not to mention social conservatism runs rampant there.
But I’ll support them over the US and the west on most things, which is generally I think where the confusion comes in
That’s assuming they’re living in the US. Compared to Guatemala, China does feel like a utopia. It was very surreal to be walking down a street and not fear getting mugged or hearing gunshots. The standard of living is lower compared to what many Americans are used to but it’s significantly higher than anything I’ve seen in Guatemala.
There were some pretty bleak signs of poverty as well like you mentioned and the social conservatism is something I’m very used to experiencing in Central America. I wish we could one day raise our standard of living the way China has, but corruption in the government runs so deep that I doubt it will ever happen.
I pray it’s a bit otherwise this site is mostly full of delusional contrarians.
It’s not a bit, they’re objectively superior to the west when you adjust for GDP and population density
Obviously the west has absolute higher living standards on average (just don’t ask about the median) because they, you know, live on multiple continents of land stolen within the last 200 years. But even despite this, China has a lower homeless rate than the US
China still has a loooong way to go when it comes to development, especially in rural areas. Even I’m first rate cities like Shanghai, there are still deficiencies. For example, it’s generally not recommended to drink tap water without boiling.
That being said, I think that the key difference between China and the West is one of trajectory. Every time I visit China, the place I was at last time is better, newer, more developed. When I visit the West, things tend to be either the same, or have new improvements but surrounded by poor people and the homeless.
This is supported when you look at surveys of public sentiment. Most Chinese people think that they will be better off in 5 years. Most Westerners think the opposite.
China is in no way a utopia. It may one day become a utiopia, but that’s long in the future. For now, it’s enough for most Chinese that their lives are getting better every year.
India got slammed for this shit at the G20 summit in New Delhi
Meanwhile San Francisco:
I mentioned this on a previous thread but I still find turning San Fransisco into a Potemkin village to impress the general secretary of the communist party of China to be peak satire
Doubt it’s for Xi specifically really. 22 other world leaders and a shit load of billionaires will be in attendance.
Lmao it is very funny that the conservative media is going all-in on selling this as all because of Xi though.
Conservatives will use this to show how easily they could “solve” poverty if elected
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