WHAT YOU DON’T LIKE QUEER NAZIS NOW!
a “Slava Urkrani” in gay colors in their base.
I wonder what they think on how the last pride parade in Kiev went
I don’t think arguments like this work very well because they’re not consistent to our “allyship isnt transactional” argument when talking about homophobia in Palestine.
I don’t think Ukraine is like Palestine, but radlibs do. So it falls completely flat.
I don’t think arguments like this work very well
I don’t think any argument works very well because they insufferable smuglords
Eh the people I’m talking about are not stuck in their position at all lol. I’ve been able to talk about how that Slava Ukrani shouldnt be there multiple times without even any pushback, and when I suggested replacing with Free Palestine there was some agreement.
Idk why this forum refuses to believe this because its demonstrably true if you actually talk to people but there are plenty of well meaning radlibs who haven’t looked at the Ukraine issue beyond seeing Putin as the aggressor and therefor the bad. Plus on Twitter I’ve met Maoists who are :palestine-flag: :ukraine-flag: for like natlib reasons but are very critical of Ukraine and western russophobia and dont like Nato. So this forum makes a lot of assumptions about people that dont reflect if you actually talk to people. Are there smug Vaushite types who are too entreched to listen? Sure. Plenty. But its not all of them. So giving up on ANYONE who is pro-Ukraine currently is… dumb? Idk why this forum is constantly doomering about reaching people as if they were not themselves presumably liberals at one point of their lives.
So no I’m not going to use arguments that don’t work on people who are still very much moveable lol. Don’t assume everyone with certain opinions are entrenched.