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assure the decline of the US and possible balkanization
Hoping millions die in a blood soaked civil war that would essentially guarantee a Bronze Age Collapse style disruption of the international order to pwn the libs
Bronze Age Collapse style disruption of the international order to pwn the libs
What the fuck is this shit tier take?
“Hey guys we can’t make the US fall in disorder and chaos because basically everyone else would go right back to being caveman with sticks without the big western man to keep things in order”.
Like fuck off this is shit reddit level take I wouldn’t expect to see here.
Here is something you may not have realized: The world will go on just fine without the big red line going up. Heck some places may actually see a tiny little bit of peace and prosperity without the sight of a predator drone on top of their heads.
Most understanding of the Bronze Age Collapse these days views it as a result of the complexity and necessary interconnectedness of the societies causing anything destabilizing to bring the entire thing down. For example bronze required multiple metals not all found locally to any of the powers; political and social order followed a centralized top-down hierarchy (palace economy); and agriculture by that time depended on significant division of labour and technology. When everything was disrupted and contracted to a critical degree by a series of smaller crises, some parts of society simply weren’t able to sustain themselves and the cascading failures took out everything.
The contention here is that the world now has a similar vulnerability due to complex global supply chains, and that a large enough disruption would collapse everything. Many populations depend on imported food to survive, production is so distributed that many end products are impossible to produce in any kind of scale (or at all) without supply chains millions of people deep. Take away half the oil production, half the internet, half the steel and see if the other half grows it back; hell just dial up the Thanos factor and eventually you’ll see what modern society’s bus factor is. It’s not about the white people being necessary to ‘keep things in order’, it’s just the idea that too many of the cogs needed are in America; the same would apply to any other disruption of a similar scale.
Luckily though we have capitalism now. Economies are able to respond rationally to systemic disruption and rearrange distribution optimally. This is true now because neo-liberalism patched out the bugs in the invisible hand code that stopped individual self-interest from always magically producing net altruism.
I mean, you’re right in the long term of course. But if the US collapses while the global economy is still based on the petrodollar, then there will most likely be a global economic collapse that will leave millions dead. Gotta crack a few eggs to make an omelette I guess.
The continued existence of the US causes as many deaths through imperialism and exploitation, and that’s before you get into the pandemic running unchecked within its borders
International trade would be thrown into chaos for one thing. The power vacuum would assuredly lead to conflict around the world. Not a good thing to have on a planet where internation co-operation is the only way we can guarantee that the equatorial zone will be habitable for humanity in the next century
International trade would be thrown into chaos for one thing.
Oh no, not trade! LMFAO
The power vacuum would assuredly lead to conflict around the world.
IGNORANT LIBERAL ALERT.
Literal fucking American exceptionalist/indispensable nation propaganda and it’s being upvoted. Literal fucking empire propaganda “America is stability”. No, fuck you. America is coups, America is deliberately engineered instability.
It would literally do the opposite of that. The US is one of the world’s net exporters of food and is a leader in researching and developing technologies that would help with mitigating and even somewhat reversing climate change. Can’t do that if a Balkanization and all that attendant mass murder happened
Hoping millions die in a blood soaked civil war that would essentially guarantee a Bronze Age Collapse style disruption of the international order to pwn the libs
Fuck off liberal x24
The Americans have made their bed, long have pompous, greedy, brainwashed Americans sat high and fat on the spoils of their empire of putrid death and brutality. It is illogical to assume they are going to change anytime soon. The US is the primary obstacle to a better world. This is a fact. What’s also a fact is a billion people will die from climate change thanks to American inaction, intransigence and the general defense of continuing the profitability of fossil fuels while adding the added evil benefit of making large parts of the world inhabited by geo-political and economic rivals hard to sustain human life in.
You ignorant dog. I don’t hope for millions of deaths, but I would accept the reality of the matter. Show me a realistic way to collapse the US quickly and painlessly and I’ll root for it instead. There is none. Empires collapse in very messy ways and especially so when they’re full of hyped up, hyper-indoctrinated, hyper-nationalist lunatics like the US is. It has lived hyper-violently and it shall die in the same way.
Bronze Age Collapse style disruption of the international order to pwn the libs
What collapse? What kind of substance are you on? This is one of those not even wrong level takes. I just don’t know where to start because it’s just bizarre. I have to assume you’re some sort of American exceptionalist chauvinist. Which begs the question, why are there at least 25 other such persons on this website? Please go find a fascist forum to jerk yourselves off about how indispensable the US is.
What order you fucking piece of shit? The capitalist order? The imperialist order? Fuck you.
