I gotta say the death cult shit on the left is so wildly fucking weird to me. it really is one of those just like entirely sociopathic things where people have just decoupled themselves from empathy so much through frustration and demoralisation they’ve ironically, which always ends up meaning earnestly but detached and with a thin veneer of dismissal, embraced this idea that horrific judgement day levels of shit is needed on certain countries and large groups (not talking about the bourgeoisie here, but the working masses), millions we all openly agree are shaped and brainwashed by systems outside of their control. do bad people and places cause unimaginable pain? for sure, but to then throw that blind injust dehumanised violence back at the masses that characterises imperialism and capitalism is full of this Christian evangelical smite and divine retribution of those who have sinned beyond salvation and must die to cleanse the world.

I already know all the explanations, ‘it’s just a meme’, ‘the imperial core did bad stuff so needs to suffer’, ‘the west will never embrace socialism unless enforcement via mass violence and destruction of all institutions and infrastructure’. but the thing is like, you read any text by international communists, black radical groups, anti imperialists, they literally all say ‘we just want you to stop being assholes so we can be friends who work together’, and so it seems to be this self hatred that fuels this than any outside demands, one which just seems really unnecessary and honestly childish especially from people who claim to have a deeper materialist analysis which breaks down why these opinions and actions are so common and systemically enforced.

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Ok DeathToBritain.

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:ukkk:

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everybody knows those sentiments are not ‘kill everybody’ but are ‘we should destroy the system and state that takes out violence upon people’

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Everybody as in us :left-unity-4: simple leftists or everybody else :Hoggers: ?

Because I’m pretty sure the popular understanding of “death to <country>” means the country and everybody in it.

Hucking :brick-police: and glass houses or something like that

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the iranians have never meant “yankees should be genocided” death to <country> has always been about opposition to imperialism and neocolonialism.

some navel-gazing arrogant americans think half the world literally wants them dead but they’re the most incurious hateful people imaginable so their opinion doesn’t really count on whether victims of the yankees’ slogans hurt their feelings

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