slowly radicalizing me and I don’t like it
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Can’t wait for all my leftist friends that I managed to convince electoralism works rubberband back into tankies bc moderates are massive bitches
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this is literally half my friend group rn and I’m running out of counters
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if the choice ever comes down between AOC-type candidate and a Manchin-type candidate, the libs will do everything possible to get the conservative elected
I mean, a lot of people on here aren’t exactly going to help. They’re going to call AOC a fascist and hold out for a protracted people’s war or general strike. How anyone thinks that’s moving the ball forward, I don’t know.
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of AOC. “sOcIaL fAsCiSt!1!!” is not one of them. There’s no path to a mass movement through calling one of the most popular and furthest-left politicians in the country a Nazi.
And we’re not talking about a choice between AOC and Lenin reincarnate; we’re talking about a choice between AOC and Joe Manchin. A legitimate critique of what passes for leftist candidates in the U.S. would acknowledge the many ways those candidates are still an improvement over the most conservative of Democrats.
This is a question I keep coming back to- is there a way to have honest analysis amongst ourselves and also recognizing that some of that analysis suggests actions that aren’t a good idea in this moment?
I personally think a lot of the criticisms of AOC are well founded. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to lead with them when talking to libs I’m trying to radicalize, and I don’t think most people are suggesting that.
I guess what I find weird about comments like yours is you seem to be saying we shouldn’t even be criticizing her amongst ourselves which, just, why?
I’m all for honest analysis and criticism – but calling AOC a fascist is neither. Who does that appeal to outside of (some) terminally-online leftists?
Do you see what you’re doing again? You’re conflating analysis with tactics.
Who does that appeal to? Why does it matter if it’s not in our messaging?
