These narratives have real world consequences. Anytime you mention Xinjiang or that China is committing a “genocide” to liberals and conservatives it helps spread this shit. It helps reinforce Sinophobic narratives and will result in more deaths. Combat these lies and this propaganda where you see It. It is our moral duty to do so.

I find it telling that every center left site I know of is radio silent on this recent shooting. Probably because they’re worried about pondering it’s implications.

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social democracy is the yada yada

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How many center left sites do you know

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Like… 5ish?

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Would you mind saying which ones?

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Everything is about politics. None of these politicians, people or news agencies actually care.

1.) It appears he used a handgun, which will do damage to their “AR-15s DO MASS MURDER!!!” narrative/legislation.

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2.) It’ll take air-time away from their Capitol “riot” meme, which they’ve been successfully using to distract people from how shitty the Democrats actually are, now that they have absolute power.

And on the “riot,” I finally took the time to watch more of the footage… it’s basically a bunch of morons and boomers literally just wandering around taking pictures. Most of them didn’t even leave the velvet ropes lol, it’s the weirdest fucking thing. Calling it a riot is far, far too generous… and insulting to actual rioters everywhere. Some guys outside destroyed some camera equipment though, so I guess that’s something. Look at this:

It was the strangest fucking thing… they kept screaming not to damage anything… then said a prayer? Then told the cops they loved them? Then eventually politely left because the cops asked them to?

The reality of the situation is all of this stuff is just a distraction: Jan 6 was some inconsequential bullshit, “student loan forgiveness” will never happen, universal healthcare will never happen, etc, etc… all of this stuff is just a smokescreen the establishment can hide behind while they do establishment shit. All these people care about is getting re-elected so they can line their pockets with “speaking fees” from their owners.

And I heard we recently just shut down an oil pipeline… but America still needs oil, hmmmmm… I wonder where we might be able to find some oil laying around?

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I like to immediately pivot to all the messed up, indefensible stuff the US does. It’s embarrassing for them to realize that they don’t care very strongly about social issues since they ignore so god damn many of them in the U$. The US stands on a mountain of misdeeds that’s constantly getting larger and wants to pass judgment – and everybody knows US ‘judgment’ often consists of lies, and is usually tethered to some extractivist enterprise they want from the country.

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I’m sorry sir, but you just committed a “whataboutism”. Clearly that gives me the green light to say chinese people are evil.

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“Well how is it wrong if we do it?” is a good socratic counter

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Every fucking time.

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Do you know what number that is or the title maybe? I don’t think I’ve listened to that one.

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Many people won’t refer to the camps at the border as concentration camps because “that’s offensive to Holocaust survivors” but also it’s fine to use the word it it’s a different country…

But just in general I’m sick of Holocaust comparisons. For anything. It’s like it’s been… not co-opted, per se, but just used as a comparison for everything else bad nowadays. More than 50% of my race didn’t die out for people to always say “actually this is WORSE than that.”

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No one in real life has a serious opinion on the topic. 90% of americans think about China once a month maybe. They believe what CNN or MSNBC or Fox tells them and don’t think past that.

Online folks are either psychotic or actually signal boosted by the propaganda machine/propagandists themselves.

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2 things can’t be bad at once and believing otherwise is racist

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Also wtf is the position “yeah there is a genocide happening, but we shouldn’t do anything about it”. Like Goddamn if I ever say that fucking put me in a ditch and blow my brains out.

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It’s a pretty normal position if you are an American, we haven’t gone to war over genocide since WWII, we never intervened in Sudan or Somalia or Rwanda or any other country doing genocide

And since this will be my last post here: do you really think that a war between China and the US is what us genocide believers want? A war between two fully nuclear armed nations? Just how do you think that war would end? It’d end with everyone in the world dead.

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I would say we’ve never gone to war over genocide. I think we pretty much entered WW2 because we we’re dragged into it. If Japan wasn’t threatening US colonies (Philippines) which prompted the oil embargo and which then caused pearl harbor, I don’t think we would have ever been involved.

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A war between two fully nuclear armed nations?

I don’t think this is politically possible.

But, imagine a border conflict between India and China, not fully acknowledged by any involved country, into which NATO pours resources and escalates for a decade without ever becoming a “war” or even getting more than a token news story. That seems like it could happen.

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The war in the middle east was always a war against communism. Afghanistan was used to beat the USSR and now they plan on using Xinjiang and Turkey to beat China.

China saw what happened with the Soviets though, and is proceeding cautiously. They aren’t sending troops and they’re focusing on internal affairs first. If they can keep this up, I don’t see how they’ll collapse first. They’ll always lose the arms race against America and they know that.

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Did I imply that you (genocide believers) did want a war? I don’t think anyone, bar Posadists, really want a war between China and the US.

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Yup. I’m sure China has institutional racism and police brutality like every other country but it’s already getting a disproportionate amount of attention. More often than not with superlatives and outright lies. Don’t need the ‘left’ from Amerikkka talking about it. Sort your own fascist country out first.

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i would but then the 90y/o lady without a mask will complain to the manager again

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Cough on her.

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Just lie and say you are the manager :galaxy-brain:

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I’m not a manager, but if I were, I’d explicitly encourage stealing manager valor in order to tell customers to fuck off

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