Not mine, but free to share. Enjoy!
My first post here, but for those who don’t want to read through 180+ pages, here’s a (somewhat) shorter shareable debunk from my socialism faq. This post got me banned from several reddit pro-imperialist “leftist” subs btw.
What’s going on with the Uyghurs?
- What’s going on with the Uyghurs / Xinjiang province?
- XinJiang: Facts vs Fiction.
- A Pakistani Diplomat given full access to “re-education camps” and this is what she found.
- Despite claims of “erasing Uyghur culture”, they stated: “I did not find any instance of forced labor or cultural and religious repression. The imams we met at the mosques and the students and teachers at the Xinjiang Islamic Institute told us that they enjoy freedom in practicing Islam and that the Chinese government extends support for maintenance of mosques all over Xinjiang. […]The most visible sign of protection of Uyghur culture by the government is the government-run bilingual kindergarten schools where children learn Putonghua as well as Uyghur language and culture from a very young age.”
- Egyptian media delegates provide a detailed insight of the situation in Xinjiang
- A majority of Muslim countries support China’s policies in XinJiang, and don’t believe the western lies told about it.. 54 Countries in total. 2, 3, 4 Supporters: Algeria, Angola, Bahrain, Belarus, Bolivia, Burkina Faso, Burma, Burundi, Cambodia, Cameroon, Comoros, Congo, Cuba, DR Congo, Egypt, Eritrea, Gabon, Kuwait, Laos, Nigeria, North Korea, Oman, Pakistan, Philippines, Qatar, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Togo, Turkmenistan, UAE, Venezuela, Zimbabwe.
- China’s policies in the Xinjiang Uyghur autonomous region lift 1.85 million people out of poverty from 2014-2017.
- US fuels terrorism in China: “1 million Uyghurs never verified”
- China’s Xinjiang Problem – Made in USA.
- No, the UN did not report China has ‘massive internment camps’ for Uighur Muslims.
- What about Democracy now and the Intercept’s claims about the Uyghur camps?
- Religious freedoms in China explained.
- Thousands of Muslims from the Uyghur province make Hajj Pilgrimage yearly. 11k Chinese Muslims travel from Xinjiang on free chartered flights to Saudi Arabia for the Hajj, in 2019.
- EU rejects China offer of Xinjiang tour.
- A wikileaks cable from 2011 shows that the US coordinated with groups to incite separatism in Mongolia, XinJiang, and Tibet.
- The sources for an Australian documentary about the uyghurs, turn out to be members of the FSA and TIP, right wing, ultra-nationalist Turkish terrorist orgs. The two men with links to terrorist groups were interviewed on nearly every Australian TV station for a week. 2
- If China Is Anti-Islam, Why Are These Chinese Muslims Enjoying a Faith Revival?
- A New York Times “expose” of re-education centers in Xinjiang lied and mistranslated every claim.
- Reddit holds an AMA for an “Uyghur Activist”, who turns out to be Rushan Abbas, a CIA agent who worked for Homeland Security, Department of Defense, Department of State, Department of Justice, and various U.S. intelligence agencies, and even worked at Guantanamo bay, the US muslim torture camp. 1 2
- Reddit holds yet another AMA with Sophie Richardson, the “China director” at the US soft-power regime change agency Human Rights Watch. The comments expose her as not speaking chinese, and spreading blatant lies about China.
- A case study in Anti-Chinese racism.
- RodericDay - A thread about the key sources for Uyghur Genocide (Especially Adrian Zenz).
- Breaking down the BBC’s visit to XinJiang.
- More sources debunking this here.
I’ll guarantee it’s not the length of what I shared that’s preventing people from reading.
haha well okay but you aren’t posting that it’s too long AND you think it’s lies
I’m on board with what’s said here but I want to bring up the video leaked from the former Uyghur model and I want to know why people think increased Uyghur autonomy is bad. I don’t know if this is addressed in the document but I’ll get to reading it.
Supposedly the guy was arrested for some minor drug offence so he could be put there, if true I think that’s bad. He’s sitting there chained in a dirty room with lice and there’s propaganda against Uyghur separatism blasting outside the window. Is this accurate and is this necessary to counter terrorism? Would the Turkistan Islamic party or something similar seizing power be why separatism is a big concern or are we just saying increased autonomy of Chinese regions is bad?
Edit: These things aren’t really talked about in the document, there is some discussion about the autonomy of Chinese regions, and an acknowledgement in the intro of "That while not doing what the Western world accuses it of doing, the Chinese government deserves scrutiny for the way they are currently handling their issues, even if they aren’t actively committing a genocide against a minority group or have been perfect. As leftists we must always uphold the tradition of “a ruthless criticism of all that exists” ", which is good at least :soviet-hmm:
Oh my god this is a fucking book
Libs will literally eat up any slop that’s fed to them by “respectable” (hint: western) sources, regardless of its plausibility
That’s one of the observations that I think has potential to start people on the path towards questioning U.S. propaganda. If you point out to someone that people will believe anything a paper prints about one of the Bad Countries, it might get them started on questioning why they believe stuff so uncritically.
The best examples of this might be the WMDs in Iraq story or the “survivor of Saddam’s regime” who turned out to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador back in the early 90s. It has to be something well-documented as false that doesn’t involve a socialist state.