I’ll take it. Normal people are finally starting to overtake the idf influence operatives flooding world news

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I think they massively overplayed their hand with the beheaded babies thing. Genocide Joe getting caught lying about it was devastating (btw no way that staffer who said he never saw the pics still has a job, right?). I think Blinken was sent out there to do damage control but by then the spell was broken.

Like, anyone who wants to believe the beheaded babies thing will continue to do so. But for everyone else, within the span of like 48 hours it went from being this thing everyone thought was true to a meme once they realized how absolutely silly the claim was (and that Biden straight up lied about it).

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The White House retracted many bold statements from Biden like him recognizing Taiwan as a country before the White House reiterated that they recognize the PRC as the only China lol

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there’s no way that guy is actually presidenting

just like with trump i’m 100% sure he gives some terrible orders and people under him just decide to not obey, going “sure grandpa your order worked wonderfully, as you can see” and showing him fake graphs and shitty photoshops

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Edit: I done messed up and confused strategic ambiguity with other ambiguity re. the status of the One China Policy in recent times. Thanks to immuredanchorite for the correction.

The White House does not recognise the PRC as the only China though, they adhere to the One China Policy which acknowledges the status quo of competing claims by the PRC and ROC over Chinese territory and Taiwan province.

Them backtracking Biden’s gaffes wrt the status of Taiwan as a country is only to retreat to the ambiguous ground of ‘One China’ they currently operate under.

(honestly, I’m not entirely sure I’ve even gotten it correct in terms of how the USA defines its One China Policy because they deliberately keep it vague to allow themselves maximum freedom to engage with the ROC as though it were a sovereign government. All I know is they wouldn’t go so far as to say the PRC is the only China, that would be seen as too much of an endorsement of the PRC’s own ‘One China’ policy vis territorial integrity and governance)

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27 points

Then they will just up the propaganda game.

The more horrific shit they make up, the easier it is to sway to enlightened centrists

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it’s gotta be played carefully. if it comes out as obviously false too quickly, people learn to ignore the source. if they learn years later, they stay pliable to atrocity propaganda. the IDF got too brazen with it so once people cottoned on to it just days after, while the news was visceral and fresh, the whole news cycle flipped on them while they were in the early stages of a genocide.

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The fact that there are pro-Palestine rallies less than a week after is already proof that this isn’t like 9/11.

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is already proof that this isn’t like 9/11.

Well, at least not Israel’s 9/11.

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Hey there were people dancing on 9/11!

Oh wait

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I’ve seen a huge support push for Palestine in all of this, it feels like the media is trying it’s damnedest to drum up support for Israel and young people are not having it.

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38 points

No more uniculture

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r/TrueAnon showed a poll that said 41% of Americans had a negative opinion of Israel. Maybe that’s not a plurality but if 15-20% are undecided/no opinion, then that means there’s as many people who have a positive view as a negative one.

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The world was a different place back then. Back then, your parents, your church, your local friends, the mainstream media were basically all your sources of truth for local events. If you had any contacts that countered the main narrative and ideology of the US, they might have been silent out of fear or perceived as cranks.

Now we’re in a post-truth era. If 911 happened in 2020, we’d still invade the middle east soon after. Our naked emperors would just be a lot more shameless about it.

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Liberals will face cognitive dissonance that can largely be redirected by the suite of genocide apologetics developed for Israel/the rest of empire over the last several decades. It will be interesting to see how much it can excuse. Obviously it can already excuse a “slow” genocide and apartheid. I’d love to see liberals worn down over the period of a week but I think the path ahead will be escalations and liberals finding new excuses for “defending” the Zionist occupiers.

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9/11 was an attack from another country, far away, who believe in a religion people weren’t taught about in schools.

Hamas’ attack was from within Israel. Two very different things on a surface level. To some degree I understand why Americans largely felt the way they did after 9/11. The was Zionists feel is very different, and genuinely evil

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Busting up at crackerdom

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Maybe real opinions are starting to poke through the consent manufacturing machine?

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Israel has found the limit of the blank check the imperial core gave them for revenge.

Killing a journalist and bombing fleeing refugees is crossing the line for people whose sympathy was already wearing thin after a week of relentless air strikes and cutting off food and water.

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turning a big dial taht says “war crimes” on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right

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They’re excited about the idea of retributive violence, but the reality of the IDF killing noncombatants as the point of such violence is lost on them. They see themselves as the Main Characters and those that they side with must be intrinsically good and not do bad things.

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Yeah, Isreali retaliation is not very griffindor. Not very griffindor at all

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But we will ban you for comparing the IDF to Slytherin :(

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Vibes based politics, all the way down

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