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I mean you could even take the bottom number and leave them with the top number and they could still live in unimaginable luxury forever. Or just take the lot because fuck em lol.

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I couldn’t imagine spending $1 billion in my entire life, let alone 3-4.

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A million seconds is about 12 days. A billion seconds is about 32 years.

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The proportional difference is the same, i.e. the same number of orders of magnitude separate them, but in absolute terms, someone with $10B is closer in wealth to your or I than to Bezos (which, to be clear, does not mean we shouldn’t take it, merely that the height Bezos is at is unfathomable)

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Most of their billions is ownership in companies they grew into what they are today. It’s not like they have billions to spend, it’s that their ownership is worth billions according to the market.

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They could go to any bank and leverage that asset for a loan for more than everyone who posts on this platform will make in their lifetimes no problem. That is a nonsense talking point

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While that may be technically true, is running defense for these people who would happily see you and everone you care about die if it would make them another buck really something you want to be doing?

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yes this is true but they have so much money available to spend that it makes amounts practically meaningless

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You all realize they don’t have that money laying around to pay the IRS right? They own companies, those companies are worth that much. To pay that you would have to liquidate those companies. So no more Amazon, Tesla, Space X, etc…

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no more Amazon, Tesla, Space X, etc…

Oh no! Anyway, so how can we make this happen, like, yesterday?

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Brings a tear to my eye, I tells ya

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Don’t threaten me with a good time

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I would be happy to take taxes in the form of ownership of the company

here the tax genius of Henry the 8th comes into play “pay me my money or else”

when noblemen didn’t pay william the conqueror the taxes he felt were due on time he would boil them. The principle being that if the rich face consequences for breaking the law they obey.

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You don’t have to liquidate. Giving governments around the world more of a direct say in these international companies would be good.

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Well they are public companies bar space x so. Just redistribute those shares.

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I highly recommend you to read the paper billionare argument. The market can stand the liquidation of most of those companies without making them go bankrupt, we don’t want them to stop existing, just to make them smaller and not a threat to democracy.

For the whole scale of wealth I also recommend going through wealth shown to scale

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No, they’d just need to liquidate their share in those companies. Those shares would then get bought up by other people or by pension funds.

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the garfield wealth tax

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This isn’t capitalism, this is corporatism

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Go ahead and define those terms

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You’d have to be dense to think this is capitalism. The corporations are clearly communist

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This isn’t communism, this is clearly monarchism.

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No, this is actually existing capitalism. The utopian fantasies of capitalist theorists like Adam Smith and Keynes simply do not work or exist in reality.

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In terms of Smith writing about his present conditions, I think it was accurate enough for mercantile society. The problem (besides his not-always-reasonable history) is that because he often failed to distinguish first principles from idiosyncracies, the logic of his observations shatters in any other context (e.g. global capitalism).

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This isn’t capitalism, this is corporatism

Which is capitalism

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Boo-Yah!

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Corporatism is fascism and not “corporations misbehaving according to my ideals”, which is just capitalism. I’m not making any statement about capitalism degenerating to fascism here.

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theres no such thing as corporatism, liberal

Death to America

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they are the same thing.

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Funny how capitalism seems to evolve into “corporatism” every time. Almost like there’s a well-documented cycle, or something

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embarrassing

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Take the inverse of that and you’re getting closer to what actually needs to happen.

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Well-behaved oligarchs gets the Pu Yi treatment, the rest gets the Romanov treatment.

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their fair share is connected to their necks, but im sure we can figure out a way to get it off them

Death to America

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look, 10% off the top isn’t too much to ask

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lets be reasonable here their fair share is all their stuff

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well their fair share would be they get nothing (or close to compared to what they do have)

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