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I wonder if it has anything to do with the system we’ve built to buy and sell products, owning, trading and hoarding capital? No, that can’t be it…

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The constant revamping of the production process, the uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, and the everlasting uncertainty and agitation of society distinguish the bourgeois era from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relationships, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away. All new-formed relationships become outdated before they can solidify. All that is fixed melts into air, all that is sacred is profaned, and people are at last compelled to face with sober senses their real conditions of life, and thier relations with each other.

-Some guy, in some manifesto, in 1848

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Damn straight, homie stumbled upon alienation and commodity fetishism all at once

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Capitalism is tearing me apart Lenin!

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Everything under neoliberalism is assessed primarily in terms of money. It thrives on selfishness. Doing things to improve climate and reduce carbon emissions doesn’t have immediate profits and is therefore ignored. The wealth inequality results in the more wealthy thinking they deserve the wealth and seeing the poor as inferior thus destroying social cohesion.

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Liberalism does not seem to seek any kind of cohesion, rather it focuses on maximising each individual’s desires regardless of the resulting sum of these individual fulfillments.

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Where did we go wrong?

The bad guys won the Cold War.

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You hate seeing hexbear users, so you took the considered and well-thought tactic of directly replying to one to whine about them. That’ll stop you from seeing more of them, for sure!

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The people that ended malnutrition among their people and brought us into space are toxic?

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Look, i’ll take whatever wouldn’t have ended up in this

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Nyaaaahahahaha, we have an agenda folks! We’ve made it!

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The bad guys replaced land with happiness in the declaration of Independence.

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Not even happiness, just the pursuit of.

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whose land tho

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The continents full of people they genocided

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? I’m not saying that they had a right to the land, in fact they just took the land for themselves. Everyone still has a right to have a home.

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I suspect the failure of viable alternatives to capitalism in the 90s resulted in the runaway scenario we see today. That doesn’t make the Soviet union good though.

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What would happen if capital succeeded in smashing the Republic of Soviets? There would set in an era of the blackest reaction in all the capitalist and colonial countries, the working class and the oppressed peoples would be seized by the throat, the positions of international communism would be lost.

Damn, really feels like we’ve been seized by the throat

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That doesn’t make the Soviet union good though.

even if it was “bad” (it wasn’t just to be clear) the mere threat of its existence allowed labour unions in the West to win more concession from their bosses.

China does not have the same effect because China does not export the revolution.

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100% agree. I had a much higher opinion of the soviet union before i heard how little it took to be placed in a gulag. It sounded like a toxic environment for voicing concerns at the very least. Although my sources could be biased I suppose.

Generally competition is good for the “consumer” or citizen in this case

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