QUESTION OF THE WEEK: if you could force every cracker on hexbear to read one book on race/racism what would it be? what about one book in general
come join our element chat room https://matrix.to/#%2F!yrzgTzeuaubMyCSigK%3Achapo.chat%3Fvia=matrix.org&via=genzedong.xyz&via=the-apothecary.club
EM POC ONLY, CRACKERS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT
guys we have a cracker actully saying they went from wanting to be a concentration camp guard to a communist in a month, and using this to defend tailism, and crackers are defending them
doing my best to stay calm.
Complete fucking meltdown by a large number of crackers on here (and other sites) over a fucking act of adventurism all because they want free healthcare in the imperial core. So many asses out on display.
all because they want free healthcare in the imperial core.
Maybe cynical but I’m genuinely beginning to believe that at least 80% of white folk involved in the Struggle are only here for free healthcare, rent control, UBI, or higher minimum wages; and the minute they get it, they’ll fuck off. Anything beyond that is just mouthing the other parts tryna fake it til they make it.
hmm throw in basic rent control OR higher minimum wage, and yeah i think you’re right. they need treat funds.
TBH a couple of mods need to be removed. My account was about a week old and I made the mistake of disagreeing with a mod about home invasions and maybe not shooting people right away who enter your home. Mod deleted not only my comments towards them, but also comments elsewhere in the thread (including me shitting on Clinton) and an unrelated thread about making a YouTube block list.
Same mod works at a prison lmao
Edit: the mod is a teacher at a prison and made a thread about it months ago. Said how bad they felt because no one cares about the prisoners. So during this discussion, I thought maybe they’d have some empathy with burglars or even people confusedly entering the wrong home. I was temp banned before I could point out this person would have shot those same people they teach.
I dunno. Maybe I was in the wrong and was projecting anger towards settlers. I did go full meme mode after losing my patience, which probably didn’t help. You can find the thread if you look at my post history because it’s the only “deleted by moderator” comments.
Same mod works at a prison lmao
So there’s an actual plantation overseer on mod staff…
That suddenly explains a lot about this site
It’s been a fucking week on this godforsaken hellforum. Honestly, if you’d told me just three months ago, that all it’d take for a disturbing majority of regular Hexbear posters to put on their best Klan Grand Wizard cosplays and show their goddamned asses, was a white supremacist techtwink with a slipped disc and a socially-murdered mother revenge-killing a CEO?
I’d have scoffed at you and asked “where do you think we are, lemmy.world?” Some of these crackers’d be a better fit over there.
I keep thinking about the way one of them kept emphasizing, all through the struggle sesh, how they and 80 other people agreed with someone who genuinely thinks that Black folk should be perfectly fine standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Klansmen. I can’t get it out of my head; I genuinely think a lot of these motherfuckers are ‘one bad day’ from paying dues to David Duke and burning crosses on front lawns at this point.
one of them kept emphasizing, all through the struggle sesh, how they and 80 other people agreed with someone
love those “akkkshually many people agreed with this, therefore it is correct” comments. You’d think “leftists” from the imperial core & anglo settler colonies would be the people who most instinctively understand that just because lots of (or even most) people think something, that doesn’t mean it’s the undisputed truth. But white privilege is one helluva drug I guess
when i see people talking bout their antisemitic/nazi/4chan phases like its a normal part of adolescence
Like even if I gave them the benefit of analyzing the conditions that lead to them having those views as adolocents (learned from parents, peers, just society in general, poor material conditions, etc.) the fact that at the drop of a hat they’ll revert to those views or try and tell off the legitimate concerns from POC over someone’s problematic views makes me think that they haven’t really completely gotten rid of that part of themselves. White privilege really is alive and well among these people.
I feel the same when I see someone talking about how they used to be in the USAmerican military
Even when I was full of liberal brainworms as a teenager, I still came to the conclusion you shouldn’t join the military to fight unjust or illegal wars (i.e. all the wars the US has been part of since the end of WWII). There were large portions of Afghanistan who hadn’t even heard 9/11 had happened. From their point of view, these barbaric Americans showed up put of nowhere and started demanding they hand people over. Meanwhile, those Americans opened up heroin production and sex trafficking.
Then there’s Abu Ghraib and the illegal invasion of Iraq. In neither of these conflicts was the US doing the right thing. We all saw the same photos. We’ve all seen the news stories about crimes committed in Afghanistan. Anyone exposed to that and still wanted to join is an asshole.
Like if you need a hero to champion so bad… there are plenty of people who do heroic things DAILY for the people in their lives and community. The people who show up and care and listen and actually do things that make a tangible difference in the lives of others, despite not doing some grand stunt that will get plastered all over the media. Those people DO exist you know? But i’m sure they’re not heroes in their eyes.
It strikes me that to be white during the past 30ish years has meant to live at the end of history. There is no change, no larger narrative, just the current moment without context. Whatever the people on their Xtormfront feeds or on reddit are talking about becomes the most important opportunity to do activism by posting at nazis. Literally just get off your anger appropriation website and learn about what actually revolutionary people are like. And if you didn’t do that before this oh-so-important moment, well, too bad, but you could finally do it now if it’s such a big deal.
Or just get all your Luigi praising out of your system with the people in your personal life, towards the radicalisation of who this is supposed to be such a great opportunity to leverage. And then talk with nuance when you’re amongst comrades, it’s not even that much to ask for jfc
I’m too tired to participate in these now but the white people on Hexbear seriously need to interrogate what it means to make sacrifices to support marginalized people in their communities
i.e even small sacrifices like giving up a parasocial relationship with some guy that believes in the great replacement
If they can’t be relied upon to do this how are they going to act when allies are needed to make greater sacrifices?
🇵🇸 [click me]
Please help Aya in Gaza ❤️ 🇵🇸
https://gofund.me/1222af19
Please help Mahmoud from Gaza ❤️ 🇵🇸
https://gofund.me/5156f6e9
https://www.gofundme.com/f/getting-food-for-my-brothers
https://www.gofundme.com/f/younis-family-relief-and-evacuation-from-gaza
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-yamen-undergo-surgery-in-gaza
(work in progress 🚧)
For real. When I posted in the mod announcement thread I made sure to make it clear that I just wanted people to be smarter about how they are approaching this whole situation and not to make it about celebrating this guy until we know that he doesn’t still hold these racist/xenophobic views. It still got someone agitated enough to have a whole debate about it.
I should have known better because as soon as I started seeing people talking about how “beautiful” it was to see the left and right come together it should have indicated just how much shit they were willing to accept even if it meant waving off the concerns of the empoc userbase here (and possibly IRL too, with how some people were talking in that thread, which is what matters most)
until we know that he doesn’t still hold these racist/xenophobic views.
That’s my exact sentiment as well, it shouldn’t be difficult. If he doesn’t do this then the propaganda in his propaganda of the deed is obviously fascist.
On the debater, if a marginalized person has to beat an “ally” in an argument to get them to listen, that person is not being an ally. Marginalized people should not have to defend themselves against allies.
And from a site that rightly looks up to Leslie Feinberg these people are not practicing any of the humility that Feinberg had when working with any marginalized people.
This entire week is just vindicating that one org that caused a string of white tantrums on Hexbear over the org waitlisting white people from formally joining the org (i.e receiving full privileges and decision making power) until more POC were recruited to maintain the leadership of the most marginalized.
🇵🇸 [click me]
Please help Aya in Gaza ❤️ 🇵🇸
https://gofund.me/1222af19
Please help Mahmoud from Gaza ❤️ 🇵🇸
https://gofund.me/5156f6e9
https://www.gofundme.com/f/getting-food-for-my-brothers
https://www.gofundme.com/f/younis-family-relief-and-evacuation-from-gaza
https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-yamen-undergo-surgery-in-gaza
(work in progress 🚧)
This entire week is just vindicating that one org that caused a string of white tantrums on Hexbear over the org waitlisting white people from formally joining the org (i.e receiving full privileges and decision making power) until more POC were recruited to maintain the leadership of the most marginalized.
That tantruming was so sickening. Like even if I wasn’t a hardline Black nationalist at this point, I’d still only want to organize with all Black or all-POC organizations seeing that because is this how the crackers are going to act when someone actually thinks about making their org’s demographics at least TRY to mirror the real world? These are the people that want me to earnestly believe they could be my comrades; but then they’re going to throw the MOTHER of all toddlerfits when they don’t get to wrest power from Black and brown folk by horde-filling a formerly-diverse org.