I am elevating this from megathread post to real post
I regret looking at X almost every time
This weird discourse has done actual psychic damage I think
Can someone make this make sense to me? Not uncritically adopting the weaponization of language traditionally, normally even, used to attack queer and neurodiverse people against less-lib American reactionaries by Democrats makes you a fed? It’s not a hill I would die but yeah
We are truly reaching levels of normality never seen before, regardless of how not weird and normal it is in many sections of society to be a turbo-reactionary
Have we entered a period where internet leftists and K-hivestandard internet left-libs become almost indistinguishable? I feel like I’m stuck in the event horizon of a terminally online singularity, spiraling toward a center of infinite onlineness
The most online people I have ever seen are telling other online people to log the fuck off, the 🥥🌴 usernames are joining with the 🍉🇵🇸 usernames in fed-jacketing people, the Democrat campaign is reposting dril tweets
We are cooked, the internet singularity consumes us all
Weirdn ormal weird werird normal couch weird weird normal
As a weirdo, I resent being lumped in with reactionaries
Rly tired rn and usually I lurk if I’m still online but I have to know:
How did you find this old post? I don’t mind necroing but you’re the 2nd person to reply in the last few hrs on this months old post, did someone link it somewhere?
Also I generally feel the same about the weird thing, good thing they stopped using it lol
Was browsing through someone’s post history, no doubt the same person who just replied recently. Didn’t notice the thread was so old because their most recent post was so new, lol.
Just lazy fedjacketing that won’t even threaten the quoted person. Same people who say "America deserved 9/11” instead of explaining AMERICA DID 9/11.
It’s almost like the people staying on a site that openly hosts illegal child abuse images and Nazis actually enjoy the abusive hateful incoherent discourse and fear the prospect of engaging with people other than the obvious demons who enjoy being insulted by them for years and treat them like court jesters
That can’t be though, that would be so embarrassing. I’m sure the serfs and majority report and all the other radlibs are still the adults in the room. Surely they haven’t just made a career out of pointing out the right does things that are obviously weird and childish, surely they can’t have zero depth to them at all, right?
The rhetoric is actually calling right wing shit weird. This has the effect of labelling the things they are throwing fits over as normal (like being gay)
Ultimately its normalizing queerness 🤷
See my comment but this is more or less getting into the weeds and allowing the terms of this dialogue back into the hands of oppressors/fascists. Using a term used to oppress others towards the oppressors is liberation for the oppressed and praxis against the oppressor by way of renegotiating who is and isn’t in the “out group”. Being ugly in your example is subjective as beauty/attractiveness is variable depending on context/kinks/culture/society etc. Using a term that was done to out group marginalized individuals and instead bring them into the in group while out grouping the oppressors and their way of thinking is horrifying for fascists and reactionaries as their greatest goal is to create acceptance to oppress, marginalize and eventually exterminate out groups. This is why the far right became truly troubled by being called weird by a perceived average individual such as Walz (who looks like a stereotypical Midwestern father figure), as this is a signal to them that they are not allowed within the “normal consensus” of society.
Using a term used to oppress others towards the oppressors is liberation for the oppressed and praxis against the oppressor by way of renegotiating who is and isn’t in the “out group”
I think I disagree. Would a perceived average individual such as Walz calling Trump a f*g be liberating?
I mean, I’m sure I’m not the only one who wears queer as a badge of honor. This rando on Twitter is just being a weird dork, though.
Fascists are ultra conformists. They believe in a “normal” and want everything to conform to it. They see everything as outside that normal as “weird” and attack it.
The second comment is not incorrect in that this is what fascists do.
However, what it fails to recognise is that by calling fascists weird you’re calling everything they claim is weird “normal”. Thus the term does not apply to lgbt people or other marginalised nor is it harmful.
Exactly, this is an example of linguistic/cultural liberation by relabeling a oppressive term back upon the oppressor and bringing the oppressed into the societal consensus. i.e. LGBTQ, minorities, neurodiverse individuals are normalized and welcomed into society while reactionaries are not, a nightmare for fascists.
Yes exactly.
Also what’s neat about this is that if it goes on for long enough it will force the fascists into conforming to what we’ve defined as normal. They are ultra conformists, if they are made uncomfortable by being the “weird” ones for long enough they will conform in order to find comfort again. They can’t go on feeling uncomfortable forever, they will triangulate a comfort zone for themselves.
Bullying them genuinely really works.
This also works on some of the liberals from a leftist position too but with moralising. They want to believe themselves moral people and pointing out that they’re not and bullying them for it makes them triangulate into a new comfort zone where they move leftwards. It doesn’t necessarily create socialists but it does create something better. Although I would say in the case of at least some people here a pathway into socialism did come through this.
