With trump being guaranteed to win the 2024 election and it also being likely that the state will be much more violent, what do you think is going to happen in the US over the next few years?
as brandon once said, “nothing fundamentally will change”
US goes through the same changes that Ukraine went through post-2014. Education and media is revamped to pump out ultranationalist belief, after 8-12 years the kids that are ten years old today will form the footsoldiers of new fascism that will be used in ww3. This conveniently lines up with all the estimates of when conflict with china would occur from US military people.
Surrounding these major goals lots of minor goals will also occur legislatively to make things a more patriarchal and ultranationalist (more so than it already is) society.
no fuckin way the usa is able to do anything with that much consistency and competence
Same as it ever was, yall had the off ramp in 2016 and 2020 with Bernie and the big elites that actually control politics didn’t bite because it wouldve affected quarterly earnings. There will be no negotiated surrender, no deal like the UK had when it gave up its Empire in exchange for the NHS and a decent standard of living - not like that lasts forever either I guess. The best thing that could’ve been done is a managed decline and coordinated hand-off to China like the UK and US post WW2.
Well, absent revolution lol. The best thing while maintaining capitalism and a high standard of living would’ve been that.
US goes through the same changes that Ukraine went through post-2014. Education and media is revamped to pump out ultranationalist belief, after 8-12 years the kids that are ten years old today will form the footsoldiers of new fascism that will be used in ww3. This conveniently lines up with all the estimates of when conflict with china would occur from US military people.
How will this work with the younger generations being majority non-white? It’s not like the abortion restrictions are going to change this either - white people will continue to have abortions in blue states, nonwhite people will be forced to give birth.
Ukrainians and Russians are fundamentally the same people and their differences are an invention.
Do enough racism and you can get coloured americans hating Chinese and Russians and basically any of america’s enemies enough to be youth fascists. Just scramble their brains. They are good, legal, american citizens. Not like those communist chiiiinese or dirty russian orcs.
How do they stop white USians from ruining the racial solidarity of the US? Even if uniting USians against the Chinese is technically possible, they still end up with the problem of internal racial contradictions as weak points in their racial coalition i.e. the inability to build a racial coalition against Vietnam “No Viet Cong Ever Called Me N*****”
How will this work with the younger generations being majority non-white
In the US for the local primary, I did a lot of canvasing and ‘illegal immigrants are sucking up all the money’ is a belief held not just by white Anglos. A significant number of black people and even some Latin people expressed this belief. This is anecdotal of course, but there’s a trend toward cross-racial ‘nativism’ and xenophobia that’s growing.
I think a multiracial coalition can be built but it’d be quite difficult to overcome white supremacy as the dominant racial ideology. I’ve said elsewhere that I think a consciously constructed colorismo could do it, but it can’t just be left to grow naturally on its own to have enough time to get this off the ground before the confrontation with China goes hot.
They’re gunna’ be like 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th generation non-Americans and probably have interracial parents or grandparents that’s gunna’ give them light-enough skin to pretend to be white or white-adjacent. Imperial core is super-good at making imperial subjects and the imperial core lifestyle seem appealing to them.
I could see colorismo being imported from Latin American countries, but it’ll probably need to be a conscious imperial project.
More officially sanctioned and unofficially sancted violence against whoever the cops/chuds don’t like. The democrats helped set up the police state they’re about to hand off to Trump.
Women, LGTBQ people get their rights stepped on in red states. Libs will wring their hands and/or victim-blame. Homeless people will get their rights stepped on everywhere.
Some right-wing hate group will attempt to hold a rally in a major liberal city (maybe with national backing if we live in the spicy timeline, but the results will be the same), and run away because the protesters are scary. It won’t be repeated and everyone will pretend it never happened.
US foreign policy will remain as omnicidal as always.
I have been assuming the search for scapegoats will intensify as the far right becomes the guarantor of capital amidst the unfolding climate crisis. We have to remember that it’s happening right now way faster than predicted. Climate refugees will be the most reviled scapegoats here and I wonder to what extent they will chip away at the rights of queer people during this time. Will they pass Russian gay laws in all of America, given how decentralized it is again becoming?
The People of Sand and Slag has a horrifying view of what such a future could bring
