Why do people act like 1984 was anything other than vibes based fiction?

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it’s funny because orwell was trying to throw shade on the USSR and only succeeded in describing england

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i remember the half-truth going around when I was a teenager and first encountering this book, that orwell was actually writing about a system he himself was part of

it literally took until this thread for me to realise I still had never addressed that falsehood, like of course orwell didn’t actually live in the USSR, but i bet most people (if asked) will still believe that to be the case - that 1984 is orwell criticising a system he previously supported/was a part of, and not a piece of fiction spun out of whole cloth

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that 1984 is orwell criticising a system he previously supported/was a part of

Technically, I guess this is true if you interpret it as being a critique of . IIRC, there’s nothing in the book indicating that Oceania is supposed to be a communist country, except maybe “Ingsoc”, but you can easily dismiss that by saying the Nazis called themselves socialists too.

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Yeah 1984 is a lot of things, but I never took it as anticommunist.

The anticommunist one is Animal farm.

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They don’t, their whole worldview is vibes based so it’s perfectly coherent

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Because anti-communism is a profitable business where you can just lie and make bank. That North Korean “defector” and all the articles written about China are examples.

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I think I “studied” it 3 times in the Australian high school system (and Animal Farm)

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i never like to attack orwell for being a cop, a snitch and a r*pist, but instead focus on the fact that the loser worked for the BBC and ASSUMED that the USSR would be worse and wrote a whole-ass book about his daydreaming.

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working at the department of lies and propaganda sure feels like working for stalin’s department of propaganda which i imagine is just like my actual job, which is evil, and therefore stalin and the whole soviet union is evil

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21 points

deeply unserious person

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29 points

God forbid people have fun.

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The Taliban has entered the chat

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Let people enjoy things (but unironically)

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Orwell probably got bullied in grade school by a football stud

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George Orwell was a resentful skinnyfat redditor.

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Jorjor Well

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