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Dae only wanna critique a genociding regime. Too bad no power for you sweetie.

95 points

If a fascist takes power the capacity to protest reform will be removed

Also I cannot stop laughing at this. 0 self awareness, goddamn.

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I watched four riot cops pile on and break a skinny teenager’s arm for protesting against the genocide of Palestinians

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I can’t even begin to recount all the fucked up shit I went through a few years ago just trying to advocate for the right of Black people to not be murdered by police. DURING the Biden administration, to be clear.

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Like as if protest reform hasn’t already been removed lmao

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51 points

if you dont stay in this little square we will kettle you, take one of your eyes, and beat you half to death

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But have you considered that Republicans would beat you to death?

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Well apparently that only happens when fascists take power and according to these people america is run by paragons of democracy.

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57 points

Dems when reform is proposed: LOL NO

GOP when reform is proposed: LOL FUCK NO

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57 points

Every single thing I protested under Trump has gotten worse under Biden. Every single thing.

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46 points

have you considered simply killing the fascist and his supporters so he wouldn’t take power, thus preserving the ability to reform and protest, instead of dignifying and legitimizing the fascist by involving him in a sanctioned competition

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86 points

They don’t want victory, they don’t want power

you are describing the DNC, not the left.
the left would actually do something with power, which is why the bougie system will not let them touch the levers and will merc anyone who poses a serious threat.

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insert Adam Curtis speech about how liberals are afraid of power

Power is a dirty word to libs, they’re brainwashed by endless children’s movies about how power is bad and must be destroyed.

But yeah, you can’t attain victory without power. The idea that capitalists will just let us win without us forcing them to us just childish and naive.

You need power to do anything. That’s the whole point of the left organising, to make people realise that there is power and strength in community and that there are more of us than of the ruling class.

All rights that women gained were won violently.

All rights slaves gained were won violently.

All rights poc won were won violently.

The defeat of Nazis Germany in WW2 was won violently.

Even the right to have your weekend off was won violently.

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38 points

“but it was republicans and democrats who signed off on ‘granting’ women rights, poc rights, turning against the nazis they inspired and supported, and to give weekends off, checkmate tankie electoralism works”

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27 points

“Yes we are progressive. No we will not make the constitution more inclusive like Cuba”

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Well according the poster and the annoying philosophy grad they are the only way to get things done. I don’t know what “things” are here. To them slavery or jim crow ended cause they put to vote to no longer do it. They reiterate that we respectfully vote and get reforms respectfully. Otherwise its satlin mao authoritarian gulag 0 freedumb.

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31 points

“good things only happen when a bougie politician signs off on it, so electing them is more important than direct action”

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online misanthropes whose politics is “firebomb a Walmart” and then not firebombing a Walmart

They got Target tho.

What kind of criticism is this? Any time there are protests (Gaza protests?) liberals are falling over themselves to tut tut the protestors for inconveniencing people or whatever. Now that the gaza protests have subsided been put down they can go back to criticizing the movement as if they were supportive rather than hyperventillating over the inconvenience.

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According to them the overall outcry towards genocide is bad and they are really destroying biden winning chances. Cause that’s apparently the most important thing those out of touch people opposing genocide don’t get. And anyone protesting or not willing to vote has no politics and did not go to philosophy college. That’s their gist.

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They are status quo warriors that get mad at anything that makes them feel uncomfortable about the way things are

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I think it shows such a lack of critical thinking. The 40 hour work week law was signed by politicians, so that is the end of the story.

Kind of like looking at the state of monarchies in Europe and going “gee, sure is nice of the monarchs to relinquish executive power of their own accord”. I guess if they had any kind of deeper thinking they wouldn’t be the brand of liberal they are, but they have the analytical ability of a child.

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You owe the abolition of chattel slavery to all the people who fought and died for it AND the slavers who signed it into law at gunpoint. You need both.

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57 points

I wish people would stop pretending we’re all saying dont vote, never vote, ever! the nerds in here just dont want to vote for the dems or repubs, we’re not mud guzzling reformists, but in my view, I love a good democracy larp

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Pretty much. Vote for whoever you want, just don’t pretend it actually does much of anything. I’ll take a hardworking comrade who voted for biden over someone who refused to vote but also refuses to do any other political activity or organizing work, but I completely respect anyone who can’t stomach voting for biden, or says its pointless, because it is. As long as you take that lesson and start doing more than just light charity and doorknocking for democrats.

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30 points

watching some of this a new movement wont materialise out of thin air accompanied with ps vote blue ✌️ is pretty funny, theyre not perfect but there are socialist orgs in the states worth getting excited about.

Drooling for the democrats is some intense american exceptionalist, defend tradition bullshit if I ever saw it… I would personally love to know what kind of on the ground local organising Nat does lol, organising an interview with a war criminal doesnt count 💅

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Yeah exactly, their solution is to deride, or to ignore the existence of, all alternatives to blue maga, and then say “you have no alternative I don’t see you starting a movement” type shit. I’d respect shilling for fucking DSA way more than this, and DSA kinda sucks.

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As someone who doesn’t give a fuck about voting but will spend a thousand dollars of my own money to go half way across the country and do relation building with Lakota, Canadian, Romanian, Mexican, German, etc. and other comrades from all over the world in the most impoverished place in the entire US, that take of hers makes my fucking blood boil. Like great Natalie, what the fuck have you ever done but grift off patreon with your artsy vapid “philosophy” video essays you monumental piece of shit. Go hang outt with more war criminals and call it praxis you slimy fucking ghoul.

If CLN had her patreon funding we’d be well on our way to a real revolutionary movement by now. Instead I had to scrape by for the entire year at my shitty retail job to afford just one trip like this.

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yeah she never was great but her smarmy centrist arc really irks me. chunka luta is 1,000,000 times cooler than random white lib in baltimore who’s only relevant online

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