they fail to mention that everyone voted against hitler, but the liberals in power literally let him into the ruling coalition and then he couped the government

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Still waiting for them to have any kind of a response to that and the chevron decisions.

Or a solution other than stop voting in republicans

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“They didn’t vote hard enough, clearly those in charge would not have let him in if 80% of the country voted against him”

-Liberals

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If a single Act transforms your nation from a democratic-republic into a totalitarian dictatorship, then it wasn’t a democratic-republic beforehand, now was it?

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It’s insane how fragile most Westoid democracies are. For example, the elected Prime Minister of Australia Gough Witlam was dismissed by the Governor General (the British Monarch’s “ceremonial” representative) using powers that almost everyone reacted to with “woah woah woah, he can do that?!”

If you live in the UK or the commonwealth Anglo settler colonies, there’s a pretty good chance that your entire constitutional framework is just a bunch of “conventions” that people mostly agree to follow but aren’t enforceable. Nobody really knows what happens if someone stops following them besides “lol constitutional crisis” or “idk civil war”.

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I was just about to use this example. Not only that, but many politicians (never mind the public) asked at the time didn’t even know that the Governor General and said powers even existed at the time. He had, however, been on the CIA’s payroll for some time.

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Yeah it’s nuts that in most Westminster systems the only stick propping up democracy is the convention of the British Monarch appointing prime ministers ‘on the advice of Parliament’. Even the expert legal scholars in this field have no idea what would happen if the King just decided to ignore Parliament and do whatever.

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For example, the elected Prime Minister of Australia Gough Witlam was dismissed by the Governor General

At the behest of the CIA, allegedly

The CIA denies it of course, it just so happens that they called the Governor General “our man” and very suddenly he dismissed the PM while the PM was seriously and actively considering closing the Pine Gap CIA blacksite, and it just so happens that the following PM was super friendly to the US

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kanada has a not withstanding clause which makes it so the government can just bypass this farce of a democracy

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Shoutouts to the quebecois who used it out of spite for every law they passed even if it didn’t need it. Worst person you know etc etc.

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While it is a bit of a silly concept, the conventions have mostly worked for two hundred years, which is hardly fragile.

I’ve met one or two experts on British constitutional law, and their opinion was essentially that unless the action is overwhelmingly popular, the Monarch deciding to stop following convention would be the end of the monarchy.

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i will say it at least prevents the angloids from handwringing about The Constitution™ all the damn time like yankees do. Though personally I’d prefer to live someone where they bothered to write down their foundational rules at some point, its not like having a written constitution is some universal good

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You know what yeah sure, that’s why the third reich solidified its power. I guess history is irrelevant, just some hand picked events that apparently occured in a vaccum changes the path forward. Whoa I’m a brian genius now.

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Just wait till Reddit finds out the UK monarch can literally murder someone and not be charged with a crime.

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so if they had done all the same stuff but with manufactured consent instead of just seizing state power, it would have been fine?

I know that’s not what they’re saying but christ, it sounds like it sometimes.

Further up the feed he’s trying to dunk on ralph nader, blaming him for the trump scotus ruling.

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