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Listen if we’re going to comprehend the man-made horrors we need to build a captive mind transfixed in agony to clarify its tortured sight

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lovecraftian horror setting where humanity reacts to the elder god problem by using genetic modification and cloning technology to engineer a brain capable of comprehending all of the laws of reality and therefore using them, but in constant suffering due to the mental stress of understanding it all

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17 points

This is warhammer 40k

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Also Delta Green, SCP, and Fallout if you go deep enough into the lore.

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just build a giant bong to supply it with weed, and an apparatus capable of eating and digesting beans and sausage and cheap beer

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we have to build the agony machine to know the true depths of agony

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29 points

if this had been the site of the oakland meat spill we’d all be speaking meatese right now

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They would’ve fused into the perfect organism.

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Good thing there is a recognized and measurable definition of consciousness, because otherwise there would be no way to know if these thousands of little brains were being tortured with every computation.

Jk nobody knows what is the threshold or activity associated with consciousness so nobody has any clue what messing with brain organoids is doing ethically.

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How does one genuinely do an experiment like this without being way too uncomfortable to continue?

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There was an experiment at my uni that involved opening up live kitten skulls and attaching electrodes to their open brains. They got PhD student applications.

Trust me there’s always someone whose marks are low enough and who’s desire to be a scientist is high enough.

I don’t think this is a particularly problematic experiment if proper ethics procedures are taken, we do shit to brain tissue all the time.

Of course proper procedures were not taken.

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It blows my mind that these types of studies are being approved by Research Ethics Boards at Universities. I get that start ups aren’t accountable, but these REBs are people that have the power to shut down this kind of research and just don’t.

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scp ethics council but if it was even more useless

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Same way they eat lunch I imagine. They don’t consider them important enough to be able to suffer.

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I honestly can’t tell if people are misunderstanding how these so-called “brains” were created due to how sensationalist the media titles have been. They’re highly specialized stem cells and they’re similarity to actual brain tissue is minimal.

Edit: Since some people can’t read, what I meant is that these scientists aren’t taking brain tissue from actual people.

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So, neuronal stem cells, induced into neurons that group together into 3D groupings of about 10,000 cells, which transmit neuronal impulses, and create connections between neighbouring cells – and are created specifically because they are capable of taking inputs and processing them into outputs…are not like neuronal tissue?

They are human neurons, made specifically to act like neurons.

My point is that nobody knows what a thought is, or what drives consciousness. Does the transmission of signals across neuronal tissue create consciousness? I don’t know, and nobody else does either.

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they used 1000 brain organoids the size of an electrode (fairly large) for this

also the study was done by the swiss and italians

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creating a thousand tormented souls for “progress”

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they want to use it in datacenters to reduce carbon emissions

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If this is conscious then every computer in the world is conscious

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Every computer on earth isn’t made out of human brain cells. We don’t know that computers can be sentient, we know for a fact that human brains are

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brain cells are not just conductive matter. They are super fucking complex. IE there are theories of consciousness based on the idea that there are things going on at a quantum level around brain cells. Each cell is like it’s own entire little machine.

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Can we stop startups please

No one should be starting businesses, especially involving technology. Deeply unhinged and immoral behavior to do so.

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