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Something that really bothers me about any discussion relating to agriculture is how the word farmer is thrown around as if it’s clear who they’re referring to. Like, the farmers, I believe are actually the owners, right? And the workers are the people who actually do the farming work?

Of course the owners are resisting extra safety measures. It costs money.

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Since capitalist modernization of agriculture, the word “farmer” has lost all meaning. Some are genuinely trying to grow the best vegetables ever while others never touched dirt in their life and spend all day doing finance bro stuff

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I can’t get my co-worker to use the fucking hand guard when operating a meat slicer. There’s also the constant using of milk crates instead of ladders. There is absolutely no reason to neglect safety to get the job done faster. You’re hourly

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Propaganda is a hell of a drug.

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Beyond propaganda, this is also the sad reality that a lot of PPE is uncomfortable as hell. I’ve never worn a comfortable pair of steel toes, face shields get fogged up in un-airconditioned warehouses, and let me tell you how nasty your hands will smell after a day of sweating into protective gloves. It fucking sucks, it’s necessary but it fucking sucks.

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Do they wear a seatbelt when they drive?

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The media will say “farmer” and Americans conjure up an image of the yeoman farmer - the rugged, self-sufficient hard-workin’ (white) man. But this isn’t 1824. At best, the typical farmer (really, “farm owner” is more appropriate) is pretty involved in the business aspect and may even be out there regularly in the crops and checking out things. But still, most of the work is done by poorly paid workers - the overwhelming majority are undocumented. And at worst, the farm owner just lives in a sprawling farmhouse and does nothing other than cut a check to a management company (who still just hires mainly undocumented workers).

I don’t actually want this happen because it hurts workers, but I almost would like to see racist chuds get their wish and have every undocumented worker deported. That would create an economic collapse that would make the 2009 financial crisis look like a balloon party. This country would starve as the ag industry would collapse overnight.

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don’t actually want this happen because it hurts workers, but I almost would like to see racist chuds get their wish and have every undocumented worker deported. That would create an economic collapse that would make the 2009 financial crisis look like a balloon party. This country would starve as the ag industry would collapse overnight.

there have been state-level crackdowns that caused problems like this but the hogs can’t look at that and stop being racist for ten minutes

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american ‘farmers’ are latifundistas, not cultivators. they’re slavedrivers of unfree precarious labor at the most ‘personal’ level or regular bourgeois rentiers that don’t even see the harvest

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Something that really bothers me about any discussion relating to agriculture is how the word farmer is thrown around as if it’s clear who they’re referring to. Like, the farmers, I believe are actually the owners, right? And the workers are the people who actually do the farming work?

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I’ve said it before, the idea of them being kindly old white men that just want to tend to their fields is pure propaganda.

What’s funny is that they don’t even need that. Most people in this country would rush to defend them since “gubmint can’t tell US what to do!”

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Farmers resist…

Public health is now is the government politely asking businesses to the right thing, the businesses saying no, and then government pretending everything is fine.

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it’s cool the government is standing by happily with billions in bail out money for them after h2h transmissible H1N1 wipes out 20% of the population

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It’s okay. They’ll promise the rest of us $2K.

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2K and get your asses back to work even though this time it’s a coin flip with the grim reaper every time some asshole coughs on you

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and give $600

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Worse, the businesses will whine about how oppressed they are BECAUSE the government politely asked them to do the right thing.

And most people will believe them.

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I hate they you can own a thousand acres of land and employ other people to work it and call yourself a “farmer”

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27 points

Normalize calling these people Kulaks.

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That’s intentional. They’re trying to obscure the line between seasonal farmhand slaves and millionaire capitalists who own hundreds of acres of land so that readers have more sympathy for the latter.

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Oh I know, that’s what pisses me off.

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Surgeons refuse to wash hands before surgery

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This too recieved significant resistance back in the day. Ultimately, as it always happened, med chuds were bullied into doing that.

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The west declines not in a grand epic battle against the rising socialism but because it can no longer get its population to vaccinate and perform basic protective measures against an increasing number of serious diseases. Its population becomes weak, disabled, burdened, and productive output can not be maintained. It simply fizzles out underneath its own inability to exert authority for any purpose other than to put boots on necks.

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productive output can not be maintained.

Output of Marvel movies has fallen. Billions must die.

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