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I HATE NOSTALGIA MINING

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Indiana Jones and the Tomb of Harrison Ford

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I’m always down for some Indiana Jones, but…not like this.

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He looked pretty old when my mate saw him fall off his bike in Newcaslte during filming so the tech can’t be that impressive.

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But why do they need to digitally de-age someone. Isn’t that more expensive than hiring a younger actor to whom someone will say, “Ah Jones here you are.” Like fucking Robert De Niro played younger Don Corleone in the Godfather and it was great. Do they think people are stupid? I mean yeah probably. But it still sucks. The language of cinema allows you to very quickly go along with the fact that now this actor is playing a younger version of that one, and there is absolutely no problem storywise. Irishman was ruined for me because of this, I couldn’t watch a 79 years old digitally de-aged actor throwing punches like he’s 40. It’s ruining the fucking movie and overall the experience.

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It prevents new actors from being minted.

When the old actor dies, you can keep making things with his likeness, without the associated paycheque or PR gaffes.

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I tried to watch The Irishman a few months back. I love Scorsese’s mob movies so I figured I’d love this one too. But the de-aging just didn’t work. I had no idea how old the characters were supposed to be in any given scene. There’s a few times when Pesci’s character calls De Niro’s character a kid, and at my most charitable both men looked to be a hard-lived 45.

I can’t believe this’ll turn out any better. After the trainwreck that is Crystal Skull they should have allowed the franchise to die. Or, better yet, never make Crystal Skull and end the franchise on the high note that is Last Crusade. If they have to make an Indiana Jones 5 and don’t want to recast the character (and, imo they shouldn’t. Harrison Ford is Indiana Jones just as much as he is Han Solo. Recasting Han in Solo didn’t work, could never have worked, because there is but one Harrison Ford and he is an old man) then they should simply write a movie around the fact that Ford is a very very old man and there’s nothing you can do about that. Indeed, such a limitation might prove creatively stimulating, maybe take the franchise to entirely new waters, asking artistically meaningful questions. Yeah, right, as if the creative geniuses they have to make Indiana Jones 5 would dare to do anything even slightly as risky as trying to make something meaningful. I bet the latest Halloween movie has more substance than whatever Lucasfilm churns out here.

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Recasting Han in Solo didn’t work

Gotta disagree with you, I think Solo was pretty convincing and that recasting actors in general is fine and they should do it more instead of pushing these eighty year olds to keep playing roles from their twenties and thirties. Solo flopped because it released less than a year after the much-reviled Last Jedi when enthusiasm for Star Wars was in the pits.

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much-reviled Last Jedi

hundreds of Rian Johnson treat defenders are now typing…

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lmao I actually kinda like TLJ but that doesn’t mean I’m blind to how it was recieved

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After the trainwreck that is Crystal Skull they should have allowed the franchise to die. Or, better yet, never make Crystal Skull and end the franchise on the high note that is Last Crusade.

I don’t see anything fundamentally wrong with turning Indiana Jones into an American James Bond. Substitute Ford for another younger actor and have him go on a functionally independent adventure every few years.

The theme of the narrative - adventurous modern academic plumbs international conspiracy to discover ancient magic - can and has been done successfully across numerous franchises. Everything from The Mummy to National Treasure could easily have been written as an Indiana Jones movie.

But the need to keep dragging out these old fossil actors is baffling. There’s no shortage of young talent and no reason to spend a fortune on post edit making old people look young again.

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I disagree with the notion that Harrison Ford needs to play Indiana Jones. Ford was imitating adventure serial Guys from the 30s and 40s and if you’ve seen anything like that, he isn’t doing anything that different with it. He’s a hat and a whip, you could easily get someone.

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de-aging cgi cant hide that someone moves like a 76 year old. They should have done what Once Upon A Time In New York, Back to the Future, and Prometheus did: put young actors in old age make up.

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put young actors in old age make up

This is what they did with Papa Palpatine in Return of the Jedi, too. :unlimited-power:

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