Less than thrilled to see that liberals are ready to get behind rabid genocidal racists as long as they are anti-Russia.
I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that may have not looked up what that flag represent, but still, they should really look up the peoples and organizations that the medias present as something/someone they should support.
Btw the scarf worn by the people holding the banner means they are elected representatives
You mean the guy with the yellow scarf? I think he’s holding the EU flag, the person holding the nazi flag is behind him.
Yes that’s what I meant, they don’t hold the flag but they are marching at the front of the crowd that waves the flag and it’s not being taken down by anybody
They do this in my city too, together with chanting Slava Ukraini Heroaim Slava for hours each week. There have been 0 news articles about it though.
But God forbid someone yells From the river to the sea
POUR LA VICTOIRE DE L’UKRAINE
goofy mf language but good luck with that lmao
Nooooooooooooooo you’re getting this wrong, its the flag of ukrainian liberationists who simply wanted ukraine to be free from evil Russia and checks notes jews and poles…
A single supporter is holding the flag.
I wouldn’t recognize that flag. Convince me the other supporters can recognize it, noticed it and agreed with the guy.
There’s another one in the same rally and the cry Heroaim Slava. They also want to disclude Russia from the olympics. Finally the first logo on the bottom left corner in the image provided by OP is of the UNION OF UKRAINIANS OF FRANCE which is sympathetic of Stephan Bandera https://uduf.fr/
I’m just saying, it’s the individuals. I’d be worried if most people in that gathering were displaying controversial stuff. They’re not tho.
Should one individual be able to discredit the whole group?
If yes, all the opposing party would need to do to defeat the gathering is send one man carrying a flag with horrible implications to the gathering.
From that hypothetical example, it’s obvious (for me) that an individual shout not be able to discredit the whole group.
If someone with a Nazi flag gets sent to your rally you kick them out. They are either ignorant or don’t mind. Both are bad.
if there is one Fascist in a group, and they are able to display obvious Fascist symbols in the group, and no one in the group stops them, If you willingly march with a fascist, and know they are a fascist, then yes I will discredit you. The group has sent a clear message that they are fine with that.
In that case it kind of do discredit them. These are the same peoples who are convinced that any accusation of neo NAZIs having any power in Ukraine is nothing more than “Russian propaganda”, yet here they are, having the flag of the most important and deadly group of Ukrainian NAZI collaborators flown right in their faces and they think nothing of it, is it because they don’t know or because they don’t care I don’t know, but seeing that should absolutely somewhat lower your trust in what these peoples have to say about neo NAZIs in Ukraine.
If the protestors forbade the use of these symbols in their protests and turned away suspect peoples that would be different, but they aren’t, they are letting the flag of a NAZI collaborator death squad who participated in the Holocaust being flown.
Like, even if you don’t believe that the Ukrainian government is controlled by fascist you should be very critical of this because if you were right that it’s just Russian propaganda then the last thing you should want is fueling Russia’s narrative by passively letting fellow pro-Ukraine peoples display neo-NAZI symbology. Pro-Ukraine peoples, if they truly believe their narrative, should learn to spot neo-NAZI simbols used in Ukraine and be as critical of their use in pro-Ukraine movements as we are.
